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Re: Last nights game
Well I appreciate you comments and I understand where you are coming from.
Maybe I did not word it correctly to portray how it happened. I waved to
Kenyon and he waved back. I then made the comment and it was made in a way
that was not serious or malicious. It was made in a "I'm a Celtic fan and
you just beat us twice so i'll take every advantage we can get" sort of way.
I made sure my tone of voice relayed to him that I was not serious. I
certainly did not call him a thug to his face.
However, I do feel that that is what he is. He has had many altercations
with fans in the past. His demeanor on the court is not what kids should be
looking up to and wanting to be. IMO, he is everything that is wrong with
the NBA. I'm sure he hears a lot worse than what I said to him. Maybe he
just needs an anger management course. Although I respect your opinion, I do
not owe him an apology.
I am not the only one to make the observation about the difference in Celtic
and Net players. Every person I have ever talked to, in person and through
e-mail on my site, has agreed with me. You can just see it with how they act
on the court, and reports from off it. I don't remember seeing Walker or
Pierce in the papers for beating up their spouse. I haven't heard any
reports of them mis-treating fans. Maybe the closest thing was Kenny telling
the kid to get away from him and he isn't even on the team anymore. Strictly
based on personalities, does Kenyon look like the type of person you would
want to befriend? He doesn't to me. You can tell that just by looking at him
and the way he acts. Most Celtics seem like the type of guys that would be
good friends.
You can't compare it to Paul getting stabbed. There is a big difference
between someone getting attacked and havibng their life put in jeapordy, and
then someone who lands wrong and breaks a bone. They just don't compare.
Thinking back, maybe I shouldn't have said it at all. A normal person would
see it for what it's worth... a rival fan ribbing you a little bit. I guess
I should have known better with Kenyon.
From: snoopy1@pig.net
To: celtics@igtc.com, Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Last nights game
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 10:45:15 -0400
I read both. Your brief review of the Celtics is harshly critical of their
offense, yet to my mind it's the defense that failed them--especially last
night. I'll chalk that up to different minds.
But your comments about Kenyon Martin bother me. You went up to him after
the game and openly suggested he should get both his legs broken. And you
seem surprised that he took verbal offense. You called him a "thug", and
even described the situation as "funny". I disagree. There's a lot of
people--in and out of the NBA--who, if told they should break both their
legs, would give you a demonstration of how painful broken bones can be.
Even presuming you were "only kidding", your comments, I think, were way
out of line. Don't forget, there's a lot of people who say--and do--such
things seriously, every day.
After that, I don't think you have a fair rationale comparing Nets players
unfavorably to Celtics players. After all, how do you think say, Paul
Pierce would react, if a Nets fan walked over and yelled that next time he
got stabbed, he should twist around so they can get him from both sides?
It's NOT funny, Shawn. it just isn't funny at all. It's cruel and
offensive, and not at all what any fan should be doing to ANY opposing
player. Frankly, you owe Martin an apology, in my opinion.
Snoopy
At 10:13 AM 10/18/02 -0400, Shawn Niles wrote:
>To read my assesment of last nights game, go to
www.sportsscene.blogspot.com.
>
>I also had a verbal altercation with Kenyon Martin which resulted in him
>challenging me to a fight. Funny stuff. Read about it at
>www.sportsscene.blogspot.com.
Snoopy the Celtics Beagle
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