Re: [Celtics' Stuff Those Dirty Owners--Cincy Enquirer

["Lance Jacobson" <lancejacob@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'm still intrigued by Way of the Ray's "internet rumor" deal involving the
Bulls for Crawford and Eddie Robinson he posted on igtc this morning..
>>CeltsSteve



So am I, Steve.  But it seems ludicrous that the Celts would be looking to
make this move NOW, when they've had most of the last month before camp to put
it together.  They'll act like their pics means something and walk away from
it, but it would help most any team.

But ERob wants the ball, Baker wants the ball and the captains NEED the ball.
Jamal will hear four guys screaming at him on every play.  I'd love to see
them here, but not until the captains learn to share.  It would look like
Kenny/Mercer/PP/Twan all over again.

But Logan would be a nice addition, and Bremer's likely to stay.  Does that
mean we can move Delk on the deal?  Didn't wash (TD&EW for DF&SL).  We don't
need all four little guys.




  ----- Original Message -----
  From: CeltsSteve@aol.com
  To: Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [Celtics' Stuff Those Dirty Owners--Cincy Enquirer


  In a message dated 10/5/02 1:36:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JimMetz@mac.com
writes:



    3. Steve Logan, Cincinnati's senior do-it-all guard. There is no truth to
the rumor that Steve Logan also drives the team bus to games. The former "fat
kid" from Cleveland (that's how coach Bob Huggins referred to him) is
respected nationally, but he does not get the publicity he deserves. He is
averaging 20.3 points while handling the point superbly, with 6.0 assists to
2.9 turnovers per game. There are few players who can do so many astonishing
things on the court so well so
    often so consistently. Logan should be considered a very strong national
player of the year candidate, right there with Jason Williams, Casey Jacobsen,
Lynn Greer, et al.

        I'm guessing, that the kid, a first round pick, wants more money than
the Warriors are giving. There is a salary range for first round picks and
once they've signed, it's  guaranteed. Since he isn't signed, I'm not sure how
he can be traded, but here is a talent at point guard, that even O'Brien could
love.




    I posted last week, to mixed reaction about trading Eric Williams.
    Would a deal for Fortson and Logan be more appealing?
        This is the type of bold move that would  make us instant favorites in
    the East; Mutombo be damned. I presume we would have to throw in our #1
    for next season.


    Golden State trades:     PF Danny Fortson    (11.2 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.6 apg
in
    28.8 minutes)
         PF Steve Logan    (11.2 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.8 minutes)
    Golden State receives:     SF Eric Williams    (6.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.5 apg
in
    23.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -4.8 ppg, -8.7 rpg, and -0.1 apg.

    Boston trades:     SF Eric Williams    (6.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.5 apg in 23.6
    minutes)
    Boston receives:     PF Danny Fortson    (11.2 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in
77
    games)
         PF Steve Logan    (11.2 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.6 apg in 77 games)
    Change in team outlook: +4.8 ppg, +8.7 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Golden State and Boston being over the cap, the 15% trade rule
    is invoked. Golden State and Boston had to be no more than 115% plus
    $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which
    did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective
    Bargaining Agreement.

    You have been assigned Trade ID number 786366
    Copyright ) 2000-2001 Real General Manager Inc. All rights reserved.





  Logan was the first pick in the second round; #30 overall. That's probably
what the hangup is, i.e. one year or two at minimum wage but with guaranteed
money .

  If he was a first rounder, there would be no need to hold out because as you
know, each first round pick is slotted at a set salary. Teams can go +/- 20%
of that slotted figure and that's it. If the C's were to trade for him
(Logan), it makes fiscal sense to release Bremer before the guarantee kicks
in. But based upon what we've been hearing out of Obie, Bremer looks to be a
keeper for this year anyway. However, I agree with you about Logan. He's a
player; not flashy but solid as hell and a winner. You have to like that.

  I'm still intrigued by Way of the Ray's "internet rumor" deal involving the
Bulls for Crawford and Eddie Robinson he posted on igtc this morning..

  CeltsSteve
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