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RE: Paul Pierce



His criticism of Paul is so regular that Lance doesn't really have to come
out and say it does he?  He has said that his PT should be cut back to 30
minutes per game.  That is not an increase.  He mentioned that the team
plays better without him and points to small segments when another scorer
plays well as evidence.  He belittles his passing when I think everyone else
universally recognizes that Paul has worked on improving it.  And as I said
to you before, he is on more than just these two boards.  You have no idea
of what Lance says elsewhere.  But you are free to defend him if you wish
AFAIC.

Cecil Wright 


-----Original Message-----
From: JB [mailto:jimmetz@mac.com]
Sent: November 27, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Celtics List
Subject: Fwd: Paul Pierce


> 	I've read all of Lance's posts on both boards and I've never read 
> that he wants to bench Pierce. His criticisms of Pierce are well known 
> and although, in most of our opinions, he does  go over the line of 
> common sense, in some of the charges, his  main point; that there is 
> an inherent selfishness in his game, which needs to be ironed out, has 
> not only been stated by the coach  and teammates of the USA team, this 
> summer, but been picked up by other reputable NBA observers. For 
> better or worse, true or not, it's become part of the NBA folklore, 
> with or without Lance's observations.
> 	Why do you think that O'Brien was quoted in the 11/25 Bulpet column 
> {http://www.bostonherald.com/sport/celtics/cs11252002.htm},  as  
> saying that :
> 	 {``We had 22 assists,'' O'Brien said of Saturday's 109-99 win over 
> the Hawks in Atlanta, ``and we went 31-5 last year when we had 22 or 
> more assists in a game. We talk about unselfishness all the time.''} ?
> 	Both Pierce and Walker are shooting at around a .380 clip. To me, 
> this is unacceptable for players taking 50 shots per game. I suspect 
> it's unacceptable for O'Brien also.
> 	No one, not even Lance, has suggested that Pierce be benched, only 
> that he become more of a team player, particularly when his shot is 
> not falling; either because of the defensive attention he is now 
> receiving, or the fatigue of his summer schedule, or a possible hidden 
> injury, it doesn't matter.
> 	It seems that every coach in the league is  on that "unselfishness" 
> bandwagon. Bill Russell called it "team ego." That mentality wins 
> championships, not scoring titles.
> 	Lance has a tough enough time defending what he does say, lets not 
> vilify him for things he never said.
> 		JB
> 	
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, at 11:06  PM, Shawn Niles wrote:
>
>> Well I certainly didn't do it to please Lance. I actually maybe did 
>> it for a little bit of selfish reasons. I think Lance really thinks 
>> most people agree with him that Pierce should be benched. I was 
>> interested in seeing what the difference in votes would be. As of 
>> now, it is 25 No's and 4 Yes's.
>>
>> (Waiting for Lances coy response)
>>
>>
>>> From: Banner 17 <cel33tics@yahoo.com>
>>> To: celtics@igtc.com
>>> Subject: Re: Paul Pierce
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:52:20 -0800 (PST)
>>>
>>> Exactly my thoughts, Why bother?   I think it was Greg O who posted 
>>> this quote a few years back "When you wrestle the pig, the pig 
>>> enjoys it."   Enough said.
>>>
>>> Eggcentric@AOL.com wrote:
>>> << I have given Lance his wish. I added a poll to my website asking 
>>> if Pierce
>>> should be benched. >> - shizzjr
>>>
>>> Is this a joke? Why bother? Lance has found his Pierce niche on four
>>> different boards. I would think him to be clever and funny if he was 
>>> not such
>>> an attention-seeking, insulting, two-years-and-counting, one-trick 
>>> BORE.
>>>
>>> Impossible to debate him with logic; impossible to insult him.
>>>
>>> Egg
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