RE: shaw game

["Orion" <jlyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I disagree with some of the others. Except from the perimeter (although he
did knock down a 3), which we know is Cook's weakness, I thought Cook showed
more than Bremer did. Cook did appear to have good ball-handling skills and
quick penetration to the hoop, what you want in a point. He made some nice
penetration and dish moves.


Bremer reminds me of Rick Brunson.


Alston did show me more potential than Blount, but is real thin. To bad Mott
is not another 2-3 inches taller.


The announcers mentioned Jerome James getting a lot of attention. That's the
beast we need, not Sundov the second coming of Travis Knight. Etan Thomas
would be a nice pickup.

















-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
Ravi Singh
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:17 PM
To: 'celtics list'; Celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: shaw game


Josh, if you don't think Cook has great pure point guard skills, you
don't understand anything about the position. His ballhandling skills
are phenomenal, his ability to penetrate the lane and dish is fantastic.
Yes he's raw. I've said that from the beginning because he can't stop
and pull up for a jumper.  But there is no one on the roster except
Forte and Walker with his court vision. The guy has great potential. As
to whether or not he makes the Celtics, it is clear O'Brien wants a
shooter first at the position, which means that Bremmer has a better
chance of sticking with the club.

You can disagree with me if you like but why the need to say I'm high
because I see things about his game you didn't? Maybe you were high when
you watched it?

Pepe Sanchez?  Please, we're talking NBA game here.

-Ravi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com] On Behalf
Of Josh Ozersky
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 7:47 PM
To: celtics list
Cc: Dave@thecon.com
Subject: shaw game


Well, I know we all saw it, so this has no news value,
but here is my take on the game.

Omar Cook:  I think Ravi Singh must be high or something.
I don't think this guy has NBA talent.  He made a couple
of decent passes the whole game.  He didn't create anything, didn't stop
anybody, and his offense is strictly incidental.  Mainly I'm
disappointed because I had bought into this idea of him as being a
natural point without ever having seen him play, except a few games at
St. Johns.  He's really nothing special, based on what I saw tonight.
Give me Pepe Sanchez any day.

Joe Forte:  yes!  I hoped that Forte would do what he is good at, and he
did, as if he had been right on the phone with Gene.  Forte forced his
shot, and was still unstoppable.  Definitely the most skilled player on
the floor.  This guy has so much talent; the Celtics have to keep him.
He made some nice passes, too, including a nice two on one break with
Kedrick that resulted in a thrundrous jam.  Boy, I wouldn't mind seeing
that happen a few times during the season. He also made a real nice
swing bounce pass off the dribble that the man caught in perfect rhythm
for a layup.  Six or seven rebounds too, unless I miss my guess.

Kedrick Brown:  Another very encouraging showing.  Kedrick missed a few
three pointers late because he shot them without being squared up, but
between his defense, his stationary makes from deep, and his
assertiveness in the paint, he really gave us something to be excited
about. Three times in the second half he scored drop-in one-footers
because he got up in the air faster and higher than the centers who were
defending him
--
some of whom were very good defensive players, such as Etan Thomas and
Brendan Haywood.  On another occasion he ripped a rebound out of a big
man's hands and slipped in a point-blank second shot over the entire
front court. A nice steal / jam combo too.

A.J. Breymer:  Looked better than Cook.  A competent point guard with a
nice shot.  I don't know if he has a pro handle, though -- reminded me a
little of Wayne Turner out there against pressure.

Derrick Alston:  a very competent big man who can't rebound at all, but
knows how to score down low and can shoot from at least 15 feet.  I like
this guy much more than Mark Blount, who also can't rebound.  But Blount
can block shots, which this guy can't.

Terquin Mott:  I don't know much about this guy, but he has a hell of a
body, showed some quickness, and some flashes of touch and talent.  I
bet he will latch on someplace eventually.  One of those guys like Derek
Strong and Tony Massenburg that are just too hardworking and athletic
not to find a roster spot somewhere, despite very limited skills.

Oliver Miller:  has lost some weight, but he's still the fattest player
this side of Thomas Hamilton.  Still has superb instincts and skills,
and a very high basketball IQ.  I don't see him on the Celtics with his
defensive deficiencies (to put it mildly) but he can definitely play
offense in the NBA.

Darius Songaila:  can't play.  Weak, poor rebounder, can't jump.  A
better looking Travis Knight.  I can't see him making the team over
Alston.

Still very little in the way of fast breaks.  The aforementioned two on
one and a three on one that was less artistic.

Opposition players of note:

Bobby Simmons:  boy can this guy play.  Far and away the best guy on the
Wizards for my money.  A real slasher / scorer, with a smooth shot and
beautiful body control.  A nice pickup for Washington.

thoughts?

Josh
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