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Re: Rumors
I know, I saw it too, that's why I responded. These things get tossed
around like they're real or something, but they're not, are they? How
many of "these things" (anything from fan-originated stuff to the hazy
wisps of dreams semi-pro media-type web sites/personas dish out like
gossipmongerers) turn out to happen? Not many, and (shockingly) the
ones that do turn out to be mostly ones broken by the "major sports
media" (ESPN, etc.) and usually right before the deal is done. These
rumors are like vaporware (or, just plain vapor, really) -- they don't
turn out. Mostly. There's always exceptions, but I can't think of one
rumor that came through and was discussed on the list beforehand. We're
always surprised. And if there was, it maybe like one or two (Fortson
to Toronto for Alvin Williams and yet another CBA-level center, maybe?).
Bird
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Bill;
I expect you've been paying attention and the below posts, as
attribution, may just be, in your mind, "hazy wisps," if not from
dreams, clairvoyance, or a drunken stupor, then from the keyboard of
some overambitious, bored sports writer, but there were attributions
posted here. First, from ESPN. As you say; "the major sports media,"
sometimes gets at least a few details correct.
The second reference from the active, professional media, was the
Indiana Star, which quoted Donnie Walsh as saying that that deal was not
on the table, but the article went on to state that "league officials
confirmed" that Boston and Indiana were involved with a third team, but
"sources" said that Tinsley was not part of the deal. Walsh did say that
Croshere was discussed by several teams.
Anyway, I'm sorry you don't get into this type of speculation. For
me, I love it and this "rumor," has enough "legs" to get my juices
flowing.
I'm not liking the Croshere element, but if we could get a starting
center out of trading Anderson's salary spot and pick up a decent point
guard; a la Jaques Vaughn, or Jeff McInnis, I'd accept losing Rogers. If
not, I'm with you on Rodney. He's got the respect around the league and
"panache," which gives the team the intangible emotional stability that
I doubt that Austin could provide.
JB
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From: "hironaka@nomade.fr"<hironaka@nomade.fr>
Date: Thu Jul 11, 2002 12:18:53 PM US/Eastern
To: celtics@igtc.com
Cc: celticstuffgroup@yahoo.com
Subject: Tinsley & Croshere
What are the pros and cons?
http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/rumorcentral?sport=nba
Jul. 11 - The Pacers have talked with the Celtics about a
trade that would send Croshere and Jamaal Tinsley to the
Celtics for Kenny Anderson. The Pacers like Tinsley, but
are concerned about his outside shooting and immaturity.
Anderson gives them a veteran backcourt leader and allows
them to get Croshere off the books. With only one year
remaining on his contract, he isn't a big risk. In the
long run, the Pacers think they may have a keeper at
point guard in last year's second-round pick, Jamison
Brewer. For the Celtics, they knew that they were going
to have to start their point guard search sooner or later
and Tinsley has tremendous upside. Adding Croshere would
allow them to let Rodney Rogers slip away and keep them
out of the luxury tax. To make this deal work
financially, the trade couldn't happen until August 1st,
when Croshere loses his base-year status.
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The plot thickens. See today's Indianapolis Star.
Pacers hurt by depleted roster
(http://www.indystar.com/article.php?pnotes13.html), there is the
following blurb (below):
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Trade rumor denied A trade rumor involving the Pacers was quickly shot
down Friday. The rumored deal had the Pacers sending Jamaal Tinsley and
Austin Croshere to Boston for veteran point guard Kenny Anderson.
"I've been reading some of these Internet things, and there's some stuff
coming out of left field," Pacers president Donnie Walsh said. "That's
not a trade that's out there."
League officials confirmed the Pacers have been involved in trade talks
with Boston. But in the scenario discussed, Anderson would wind up with
another team as part of a three-way swap and Tinsley would not be
involved. The rumored deal could be done within the rules of the
collective bargaining agreement after Aug. 1, when Croshere loses his
base year compensation status.
But sources said the Pacers, contrary to reports, aren't looking to
trade Tinsley and that Anderson -- who turns 32 in October -- isn't
likely to accept a backup role. Walsh said several teams have expressed
interest in Croshere, but most have not made what he considers a
reasonable offer.
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So what do we know thus far?
1) Rumored trade talks involving the C's and Pacers for the subject
three players above;
2) Bruno Sundov visits the C's last week;
3) Indy's sudden interest in Gregor Fucka last week;
4) Now supposedly a third team involved that would end up with Anderson
and Tinsley stays with Indy;
5) Travis Best telling Pat Riley "Thanks but No Thanks" yesterday The
Miami Herald | 07/13/2002 | Best might spurn Heat
(http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/3654433.htm)
So could the deal end up being Croshere and Sundov for Anderson?
And who is this mysterious "3rd team" that Anderson ends up going to?
The Clips (for a year)?
Could Best be headed to Boston as FA?
Or could Best be headed to the Clips as FA?
And could Jeff McInnis be headed to Boston either as part of the 3 team
deal if they were the 3rd team involved? Or is there any chance that
could Keyon Dooling be part of the equation?
Stay tuned and fasten your seat belts. We could experience some
turbulence beginning Wednesday the 17th.
CeltsSteve
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