RE: Kenny vs. Tinsley

["Wright, Cecil" <Cecil.Wright@JUSTICE.GC.CA>]

The great Mr. Tinsley was scoreless last night I thought.

Though Kenny's numbers for high assist totals may not be impressive, the
fact that he shares the stage with a forward with high assist totals
himself, could be one reason why.  I do not have stats in front of me at
this time, but would be surprised to hear that Tinsley's colleagues have
high assist totals.

Cecil Wright, Nova Scotia Community Coordinator
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-----Original Message-----
From: Berry, Mark S [mailto:berrym@BATTELLE.ORG]
Sent: January 24, 2002 2:42 PM
To: 'GuyClinch@AOL.com'; 'celtics@igtc.com'
Subject: Kenny vs. Tinsley


OK, I'll bite. Look, Kenny has been great. Fantastic. Better than any of us
could have hoped. Fine. He's averaging 9.5 points and 5.4 assists.

Tinsley, a rookie, is averaging 10 points and 9 assists per game. He's
shooting 37 percent, which is about what Toine shoots, but it only matters
when it's someone else. That 37 percent comes on 10 shots per game, not 24.

Did Kenny outplay Tinsley last night? You bet. And Reggie Miller outplayed
Paul Pierce. Want to make any great assertions based on that?

The issue isn't really about whether Tinsley is better than Kenny (even
though, all things considered, he is). He's clearly a good point guard and
there's no reason to think he won't get better, other than the widely held
assumption that only Celtic players improve. Joe Johnson is just learning
the ropes, but Tinsley is sure to get worse as the league adjusts. Heaven
help us if the league "adjusts" any more to Joe Johnson. So far they've
"adjusted" him right out of the rotation.

Anyway, the point all of us have made is that Tinsley obviously is better
than Joe Forte. He would have been a better pick just like Tony Parker would
have been a better pick. The Celtics had their chance and missed it.

Those averages on Tinsley, by the way, include the following assist games:
23, 18, 16, 16, 15, 14, 14, 13, 12, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10, 10. Let's see,
Kenny's high mark for assists is... 11, in the second game of the season.
Since then, his high mark is 9, which he reached Monday against Toronto.
Kenny's best scoring game? 19. Tinsley's? 29. 

But hey, you're right. We don't need Tinsley. We're much better off with
Forte. I'm sure Tinsley would be stashed on the injured list all season if
he were in Boston. After all, the Celtics have not just Kenny, but Milt
Palacio. The Pacers only have Travis Best and Jalen Rose.

The Celtics butchered this draft. They're going to regret missing chances on
Tinsley, Parker, Haywood, Eddie Griffin, Jason Richardson and others.

Mark

P.S. I don't mind the chance they took on Kedrick, just the way they went
about getting him. They thought they were smarter than everyone else. Listen
to them and they talk like JJ and Kedrick were the two top players on their
board (they've basically said as much). There are a lot of smart people in
the NBA who didn't agree. I don't have a problem with taking a chance, but
do you really think a JC kid from nowhere was going to be so good in the
workouts he'd move into the top nine? By making that promise, they boxed
themselves in. When JJ fell to 10, they had to take him (he was the best
player on their board...), so now you have two guys who play the same
position and the same position as your best player. Then you wait for your
turn to come at 21 and throw a bone to Red Auerbach, even though there are
better players on the board at positions of greater need. You walk away with
three guys who play the same position, even though better players at
positions of need were available. Wouldn't we all be feeling good about this
draft if we had Kedrick, Haywood and Tinsley/Parker right now?

---end---

Can anyone tell me how the great Mr. Tinsley did tonight against that old
> over-the-hill Kenny?  I must have eye strain cuz it looked to me like he 
> got
> schooled.
> 
> Cecil (He did less than JJ)
> 

I saw the same thing...
The way folks moan about Kenny on this board is amazing..
considering he just abuses some of this so called upgrades on a nightly 
basis.
Those rooks just don't compare to Kenny right now...