Re: Where do we go from here? - RealGM

["Orion" <johnlyell@hotmail.com>]

Unfortunately the time will come when the C's do wise up and move Walker.
Hopefully it is while he still has value to someone.

Yeah , he will win games for you, but he will  lose more, especially against
the better teams, and at playoff time if we make it there.

As mentioned a 4 who think he's World B. Free spells trouble for any team. I
would move him for Wallace. Rasheed has a better low post game that we need
badly. It would be nice to get Wallace and Bonzi giving up say Walker and
one of the rookies and some cap fodder.

Lamar Odom could be on his way out also. Baron Davis has been rumored in
deals with the Clippers. Unfortunately Brand is a better 4 and they have
Miles at the 3 so Walker would not be in their future.

 I am just not sure how many places would see him as a fit. Most would find
it unacceptable for a 4 not to play the position and lead the league in 3's.
Unfortunately it is one of the Celtics few drawing cards.























----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 10:16 AM
Subject: Where do we go from here? - RealGM


> Where do we go from here?
>
> I know the Celtics have a lot of holes. We're a first round loss waiting
to
> happen and in Boston that is just not good enough. But even worse, it
doesn't
> look like we're going to be "Championship Driven" in the next couple of
years
> (barring a minor miracle).
>
> Right now I'd say that we're set at one position: small forward with
Pierce.
> Not to hate on Antoine, but until we have a Mutumbo style center playing
next
> to him, I'm not comfortable with a PF leading the league in 3 point
attempts
> (leading the f%*king NBA? that's more threes than Eddie Jones, Ray Allen,
> Peja, and our very own Paul Pierce).
>
> So instead of pointing out all the problems we have, I'm asking you -- the
> fans -- a question: Where can the Celtics get better? Not in a dream
world,
> add Jason Kidd and Tim Duncan sense, but in a real world, trade for a
Byron
> Russell, sign a Michael Olowokandi type of situation.
>
> It seems like an easy question to answer: "We need a true point guard,"
> that's the first thought in my mind (Especially after watching EStrick and
> Kenny try to run the show against Seattle's zone. You'd think neither of
them
> had seen a zone in their life!). But, there are only two true points in
the
> East (JKidd and Andre Miller). So fixing the point situation is out.
>
> "Center! If we can't fix our PG problems then at least we can get a
> workmanlike center." OK, reasonable. Maybe we could get a Brad Miller type
or
> a Dale Davis to bang inside, get 10 boards a game, and allow Antoine to
roam
> the perimeter (can you tell that I think Antoine should play inside
more???).
> IF, and that's a big if, we get someone like Dale Davis, I'll be happy.
>
> "What about a swing man who can shoot the trey? Take some of the pressure
off
> our two big guns?" OK. Who's out there? Jalen Rose? Not gonna happen. A
three
> point specialist? Is Dale Ellis still in the league, cause I know he was
> twice the player Hubert Davis still is. Other than someone off the bench
to
> shoot a couple times a game (ex-Celtic Brian Shaw being the role model), I
> don't think the C's can swing a trade for a big name guy to play 2 or 3
> alongside Pierce.
>
> "What about trading Antoine for someone like Rasheed Wallace?" I hate how
> Antoine plays offense, I hate his ego, but I love his heart and soul. No
> offense to Pierce, but Antoine is still the glue guy on this team and it's
> most talented player (even if he doesn't always show it). No way we can
trade
> a building block like Antoine.
>
> "So what about our own team? Could we play better on offense? Can one of
the
> rooks step up?" This is my main hope for the future. Kedrick looks like
the
> real deal, but not this year. As for coaching, I love Obie, but he's going
to
> find out quick that unless you have three guys who can NAIL the trey, you
> shouldn't be leading the league in 3PA. Sac-town (with Bibby, Christie,
> Peja), LA (with Fischer, Kobe, Shaw, Fox, Horry), Milwakee (with Casell,
> Allen, Robinson, Thomas) would all make more sense to be leading the
league
> in attempts than the C's. My two cents? Antoine starts at "power" forward,
> he's gotta start playing like one. Because Vitaly and Batite combine for
one
> post move between them (Vitaly's up fake), Antoine has gotta get his ass
on
> the block on offense. And if Antoine gets doubled, he has to look for an
open
> Pierce, then an open Vitaly, and lastly for Walter McCarty (who's actually
> been playing decent lately). I truly feel that if Antoine played inside,
> Kenny could move the ball around, Strickland or Eric Williams would get a
ton
> of space, and Pierce would still score close to 30 a night.
>
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