Re:? on Walker

[Tammo29@xxxxxxx]

>   There had to be several occasions where Paul passed up the passing 
> option, to open teammates,  as did Walker, where he was finding them 
> early in the game. Perhaps there were some blocked shots, turnovers, 
> foul attempts that didn't get registered as shots taken? 

  Blocked shots are counted as shot attempts just as attempts to tip the ball 
in the goal are counted as an offensive rebound and a shot.  Paul had one 
shot blocked and it was in the first half, not the second.  Even so it would 
make no difference in shot attempts.
  Pierce had one turnover for the game.
  And believe it or not creating fouls on the opponents is a good thing.  
Something that O'Brien consciously tries to do on a regular basis, which is a 
big reason he wants the Williams/Miller match up this evening.  He loves to 
take advantage of matchup situations.  In the Philly game O'Brien felt 
Antoine had an advantage and so he put the ball in Antoines hands, which led 
to 24 shots and 7 assists.  In the Knick game he felt Paul had a better 
matchup and put the ball in his hands for much of the game which led to 16 
shots and 8 assists.  You're spending so much time looking at who didn't get 
assists that your not looking at why.

Usually when someone has a perception he can recall at least one example of 
what led to that perception.  
Isn't it possible that the Knicks made an adjustment at halftime and decided 
to not make it as easy for the Celtics centers to get to the basket when the 
other Celtics players drove which in turn made it easier for Antoine, Tony, 
Shammond and Paul to get to the hoop.  Points are points.  They are all the 
same on the scoreboard.  The fact that we went from a 12 point lead at the 
half to a 27 point lead by the time Pierce left the game with 7 minutes still 
to play should prove they were doing something right.

>You certainly are putting words in my mouth, if you think I  said 
> Paul was not trying his  hardest to win games. I've reinserted my 
> original post, below your response, in case you want to re-read it.
>   As for other posts, on other days, like this Phily reference you 
> mentioned, bring it out and I'll debate  it. I meant what I wrote, 
> when I wrote it, that's  all I can say for sure, having no idea what 
> you are talking about.

Well that is the way I took your two totally different reactions from  the 
last two games.  Here are your two posts and you tell me if the reactions 
aren't markedly different.

Paul comes close to a triple double in a win against New York where he only 
plays 34 minutes and your reaction is to say: 

<A HREF="http://www.igtc.com/archives/celtics/current/msg00109.html";>http://www.igtc.com/archives/celtics/current/msg00109.html</A>

     ***I wish he had kept it up. He might have had twenty assists instead of 

only eight. This would seem to be what o'Brien is talking about, in 
regard to Pierce's game and unselfishness.***

   (Forget the fact he probably only played about 14 minutes in the second 
half and would have had to average an assist a minute.
And forget the fact that O'Brien has never to my knowledge singled out any 
player in talking about unselfishness, only talking in generalizations 
appropriate for the entire team)

Antoine comes almost as close to a triple double in 43 minutes and this is 
what you said:
<A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celticsstuffgroup/message/12937";>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celticsstuffgroup/message/12937</A>

***Antoine is trying very hard, to do everything imaginable on the court, 
it's almost sad.***

Maybe I am jumping to conclusions but I'd say those two statements after 
similar games by our two captains makes it pretty easy to do.