RE: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics

["Orion" <jlyell@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Forte seems to be the same mistake made twice following up on the Chauncy
Billups pick trying to make a point out of something it is not, although he
did look good in Summer league but than so have a ton of others who have
vanished. Remember Wayne Turner? They have not figured out you can't teach
point state of mind..
Bremer, Sundov and Wolkowyski were some odd moves that don't seem to address
our weaknesses where some proven vets were available. I guess they fit the
budget. We still need a big nasty enforcer type inside. Battie is playing
well almost to the level expected coming out of college.


If Vin can give us any inside game against guys like Coleman, Ben Wallace
and others that have career nights against us on the boards,and Shammond
give us some quick point penetration, shooting beyond 15 feet, and play some
decent D on Jason Kidd keeping him from grabbing 10 boards a game on us,
that Kenny could not, it could be an interesting year.

If Kedrick doesn't pan out we really wasted the draft when players like
Tinsley, Jefferson, Parker, Radmanovich and Gerald Wallace were all
available. Worse if we actually had a shot at Gasol. Although Kedrick is a
highlight film he has  a long way to go on court sense and perimeter
shooting. I still have not seen the defense others have spoken about.
Jefferson was a much safer pick with comparable hops. I still can't forget
the block he made on Jason Richardson's dunk in the NCAA tournament.


Hope your football game turned out better than my friends whom took the
pilgrimage from California to Tejas only to see their beloved Cowboys only
to see them lose on the last play of the game.



John





-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Jacobson [mailto:lancejacob@attbi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:42 PM
To: jlyell@netzero.net; celtics@igtc.com
Subject: Re: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics


Actually, John, I remember seeing the Jlyell screen name sometime in the
last year.

Got nothing to argue about with your post.  I'm not sure how vehement Red
was in his support of Forte, or who the Celts were considering in that slot,
but based on Wallace finding blame with others for the media to jump on it
wouldn't surprise me if Red had said that the kid looked like a promising PG
prospect, and with JJ and Kedrick keeping them busy and salivating, they
just threw Red the bone.

I think Vin's waking up, but there's never been more caffeine injected into
a single bball player.

Glad you're here and posting.  I was actually worried that I misread your
screenname and called you "onion" by mistake.  I'm sure the gang would have
assumed it was deliberate.  Tired eyes after football games and 90 min drive
this evening.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Orion" <jlyell@netzero.net>
To: "Lance Jacobson" <lancejacob@attbi.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics


> Lance since it's not like you have the track record of holding back on
going
> "at it' with anyone, don't leave me feeling neglected! Bring it on! I am a
> bit surprised Paul hasn't banished you to the Netherlands like Greg a few
> years back!
>
> Just haven't had the time to read or respond to all the absurd, shoot from
> the hip, comments or e-mail volley's on the list. There is a lot of season
> left to go in either direction. I have always made it known I have not
been
> happy with the recent draft decisions of the Celtic brass. Plain and
simple
> Papile and the other guru's can't judge talent worth crap including Red
(How
> blasphemous! Sorry the times have changed)and should have been canned
after
> the Moiso and latest 3 pick fiasco. Only Elgin Baylor, who actually has
> performed better than us as of late,has had a worse track record and been
> allowed to stay on. O'Brien is the cost effective short term solution.  I
> like Shammond and hope Vin wakes his ass up.
>
>
> You must be mistaking me with Way or the others with multiple
personalities
> on the list.
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Jacobson [mailto:lancejacob@attbi.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:55 PM
> To: jlyell@netzero.net; pmaurice; celtics@igtc.com
> Subject: Re: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics
>
>
> Hooray for a LURKER who jumps in with an OPINION!
>
> Glad to have you, John, and though we may go "at it" one of these days, I
> respect you putting in your two cents on the Celts.
>
> Even if you're JlYell all over again.  More screen names than Sybil
online.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Orion" <jlyell@netzero.net>
> To: "pmaurice" <damekmo@teleport.com>; <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 7:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics
>
>
> > Heisler has always been a Celtic hater and Laker homer. I don't see him
> > writing any glorious things about them this year but some of his points
> are
> > pretty accurate. The team has played well this year, if Vin can get it
> > together it could be interesting. Hell we witnessed the Pat's winning
the
> > Superbowl and Angels the World Series, who would have bet on those at
the
> > beginning of the year?
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On Behalf Of
> > pmaurice
> > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:28 AM
> > To: celtics@igtc.com
> > Subject: Re: Heisler, Rightfully So, Blasts The Celtics
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Way Of The Ray <wayray@ix.netcom.com>
> >
> > > I'jm sure this will give the Pom Pom boys and gals a conniption,
> > > but the truth is always frightening for those without a clue.....
> >
> >
> > Way, Way, Way....I know these are difficult times for you, but you can
do
> a
> > lot better than this. Why don't you tell us again how many teams in the
> East
> > are going to be better than the Celtics this season. Start with the
Hawks.
> > Now that was brilliant analysis.
> >
> > Don't let all these wins get you down, Way. The Heisler article was a
weak
> > effort. The less said about it, the better.
> >
> > Paul M.
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