Re: Antoine

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

Please stop blaming Toine for jacking up threes.  I posted a quote from OB
last year which stated that he wanted Toine to shoot them.  It appears that
you would be happier if he told the coach to mind his own business :-)

Where you get this his game has regressed stuff is baffling but you are
entitled to your opinion.  Yes he is frustrating.  Yes he could be better.
Let's see how he does this year.  Should the Bulls have traded MJ because
they didn't win in Jordan's first 5-6 years?  Now I am not making a real
comparison between the two.  But sometimes it takes a while before it
"clicks" on the part of the player and management.

Michael was lucky to have had guys like Pippen, Grant, Oakley, Kerr and
Paxon who were all fine role players.  I don't think anyone can argue that
Toine has not been as fortunate.  But with Paul, JJ, Kedrick and Forte,
perhaps the blocks are being laid.  We'll see.

Cecil






----- Original Message -----
From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym@BATTELLE.ORG>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Antoine


> George wrote:
>
> Actually, Antoine averaged 23.4 ppg on 21.2 shots which I think is a very
> significant difference. He is scoring more points than shots -- which I
> consider acceptable -- as opposed to the scenario of 20 ppg on 25 shots
> which
> I would find unacceptable.
>
> ---end---
>
> OK, Antoine finished fifth in the league in shot attempts at 1,656. The
four
> above him were Stackhouse, Iverson, Jamison and McGrady. Obviously, none
of
> those players had a teammate of the offensive caliber of Paul Pierce. And
of
> those four, only Stackhouse, at .402, shot worse than Walker's .413. In
> fact, Walker's mark is worse than anyone else in the top 15 and only Jamal
> Mashburn (also .413), who was 16th in field goal attempts, matches Toine's
> inaccuracy in the top 40. (Oh for that Mashburn-P.J. Brown trade)
>
> Doesn't shot selection mean anything? Do you realize that Antoine
attempted
> 603 three-pointers, and only one other player, Tim Hardaway at 517,
> attempted as many as 500? Only five others-Stackhouse, Ray Allen, Reggie
> Miller, Lindsay Hunter and Darrell Armstrong-attempted as many as 400.
Think
> about that!
>
> Then look at free throw attempts. Antoine, despite being fifth in the
league
> in shots, was a miserable 39th in free throw attempts. Stackhouse,
Iverson,
> McGrady and Jamison-the four players who attempted more field goals than
> Toine-all finished in the top 10 in free throw attempts. (Paul Pierce, by
> the way, finished third in FT attempts-behind Shaq and Stackhouse, ahead
of
> Iverson.)
>
> Again, if that's good enough for you, fine. But it's not good.
>
> Mark