Re: The Beat The Crappy Teams 2001 World Tour Continues

["Dan Forant" <dforant1@nycap.rr.com>]

Yes, yes, yes, I agree with every word. This may work short term, but not
long term. We may even squeak out the 8th spot. But 8 & 7 are just welfare
from the NBA. OB decided this gang can't learn the pick & roll but are
better suited to the pick & shovel. So he's opted to let them fire em up
nite after nite till their arms fall off. His theory, if you can't fight em,
join em. When I go to the game Dec.23rd, you'll know me, I'll have a helmet
on!!

DanF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym@BATTELLE.ORG>
To: <celtics@igtc.com>; <celticsstuffgroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: The Beat The Crappy Teams 2001 World Tour Continues


> Paul, I understand what you're saying. Other than Antoine and Paul, the
rest
> of the team stinks and it's a miracle Jim O'Brien has them at 7-6. The way
> he's doing it is the only way possible for this team with these players to
> even be mediocre instead of being terrible. Is that right?
>
> My feeling is this... it's terrible basketball. I refuse to believe that
> playing bad basketball is better than playing good basketball. Pierce and
> Walker like to play one-on-one, and you say that's the only way this team
> can tread water. If that's the case, then it's time for a massive roster
> overhaul, because that kind of basketball is going nowhere. So if you're
> right, and this is the only way they can play and be anything less than
> dreadful, then they have to ditch the "stars" and find some new ones.
> Because better-than-dreadful is as good as they can get playing this
style.
>
> As for all the 3-pointers... (and please tell me you don't think 16
3-point
> attempts from the power forward is a good thing)... here's a direct quote
> from Larry Brown: "If you think inside/outside, you have a much better
> opportunity to rebound or get fouled," Brown said. "I don't mind outside
> shots, but I don't like them early in the clock. You can always get an
> outside shot. . ."
>
> This style flies in the face of everything I believe about good
basketball,
> and the reason I love the game. I'm not blind to the importance of talent,
> but I firmly believe that the only way to maximize talent is to put five
> players out there who function together. This style is awful. You're
saying
> it's this or it's losing. I don't buy it. Playing good basketball, the
right
> way, should only maximize Pierce and Walker, as well as the rest of the
> team. I've never seen a basketball team underachieve because they played
> together and didn't run enough one-on-one offense.
>
> But, it's useless to rant about it. Nothing is going to change at least
> until 2003.  O'Brien will be the coach, Pierce and Walker will continue to
> chuck from the cheap seats at record pace, the Celtics will flounder,
Kenny,
> McCarty, etc. will ride off into the sunset and we'll be saved by Tim
> Duncan. That's the plan, right? Haven't we been here before?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --- --- ---
>
> Paul M. wrote:
>
> Have to agree with you here, Way. The Celtics are a mediocre team. No
doubt
> about that. Over three years with Rick Pitino in charge will do that to
you.
> 31-30 since Ricky's gone. Thank God we finally have a coach who knows how
to
> get the most from the mediocre talent that he inherited. Seven meaningless
> wins and six "this team is going nowhere" losses. I hope this keeps up.
>
> You're right. I hate when they win after a crappy game from Walker. Why
> can't they just play the game the way it's supposed to be played. I'd feel
> much better if they were 0-13. Obviously, OB doesn't know what he's doing
> and this team would be much better off if they had traded Walker for
> Croshere and Best when they had the chance.
>
>
>
>
> "If you think inside/outside, you have a much better opportunity to
rebound
> or get fouled," Brown said. "I don't mind outside shots, but I don't like
> them early in the clock. You can always get an outside shot. . ."