Re: [Celtic_Pride] Celtic Fans

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

Mark,

You will not get blasted by me.  On the contrary, I appreciate your honesty.

I was in a situation, as a coach on the baseball field, where I have played
individuals that I knew where inferior to some teammates.  But that was the
only true way of having them realize that they were not as capable as
others.  Some think it is unfair to the team as a whole to do this but we
were forced to play everyone for a while when we were a club sport.

I didn't really hope for individual failure, as you did with Bellisari, but
it was obvious that they were not as proficient as they had previously
believed at their position of choice.

Thanks again for your honesty!

Cecil



----- Original Message -----
From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym@BATTELLE.ORG>
To: <Celtic_Pride@yahoogroups.com>; "Boston Celtics" <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Celtic_Pride] Celtic Fans


> Cecil, the only time that's happened for me was this year with my beloved
> Ohio State Buckeyes. Steve Bellisari is a third-year starter at QB and
must
> have incriminating pictures of Woody Hayes himself, because he's simply
> awful. Everyone knows it. But he still plays. Well, after an especially
poor
> performance against UCLA earlier this season (5-for-23, 2 interceptions,
no
> offensive TDs-an Evil Antoine outing if ever there was one), the
> anti-Bellisari sentiment was mounting and the feeling was he'd get one
more
> chance-against Indiana the following week-to prove he was the right guy.
> I'll admit it. I rooted against him. I wanted him to play poorly and give
> the backup a chance. I really felt the backup QB would have, with a little
> patience, been the better player for the team. So I rooted against one
> individual hoping in the long run it would better the team. Incidentally,
> Bellisari had a pretty good game against Indiana and has been the
> unquestioned starter since, and I support him completely because it's
> obvious no change is forthcoming and the team's success is tied to his
own.
>
> Would I ever find myself rooting against Antoine? I honestly don't know.
For
> example, I really don't believe Antoine has suddenly undergone any sort of
> epiphany and will become the dynamic player he was Wednesday on any kind
of
> consistent basis. Yet I get the sense after that game that our
"braintrust"
> believes more than ever that the team's power forward will be Antoine
Walker
> for the next seven years. You know how I feel about this team constructed
> that way. If Antoine plays the way he has historically (not the way he did
> Wednesday), this team is going nowhere. So I'll root for Antoine to play
> like he did Wednesday. If it becomes obvious it isn't going to happen,
I'll
> root for changes. Will I root against Antoine? Not exactly, but I'll hope
> that the "braintrust" sees the same things I'm seeing.
>
> I'm probably going to get blasted for not being a true fan for admitting
> this, but nothing could be further from the truth. I'm obsessed to an
> unhealthy extreme with the Celts, and I just want them to be competitive
for
> championships again. Sometimes that means hoping to exchange the players
we
> have for better players or a better mix.
>
> Mark
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil Wright [mailto:cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 6:48 PM
> To: Boston Celtics; Celt's
> Subject: [Celtic_Pride] Celtic Fans
>
> What does it say about a person who claims to be a fan of a particular
team
> but then they wish for failure or subpar performances by a player/s or the
> team?
>
> As an analogy, I do not like the behavior of Carl Everett of the Red Sox.
> However, whenever the ball is hit his way, or whenever he is at bat, I am
> cheering for a base hit from him.  I want the team to win every possible
> game whether I am enamored with each player or not.
>
> Is that the case with the you-know-who's on this list?  Do you cheer for
> Antoine, Kenny, Wallah, VP and everyone else on the C's to perform well?
Or
> would you rather have individuals like Toine have poor outings to feed
your
> distaste for him?
>
> I'm really not trying to start anything.  A colleague of mine asked me
that
> about sports fans in general and I think it is quite applicable on this
> list.
>
> Cecil (GO C'S!!  BEAT THE SONICS!!!)
>
>
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