RE: latest win streak

["Liles, Donald" <liles@hr.upenn.edu>]

Josh,

This pessimism is nothing new for me, rather it has been growing
considerably
over the past 5 years, and realistically even since Bird, McHale retired and
Reggie died. Perhaps it is easier for me to not live and die with the team
since I don't get to see them on a regular basis. In general, I would be one
of those bemoaning the state of the league as well. 

I applaud those of you who hang in there, you are great fans. I wish that
the team
brought me excitement at times other than leading up to the draft through
the first
month of the season. They continually disappoint, I just hope whomever they
bring
in to run the show can turn it around. 

Don


-----Original Message-----
From: OzerskyJA [mailto:OzerskyJA@cmog.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:21 PM
To: 'Liles, Donald'; 'mgriffin@rillc.com'; celtics@igtc.com
Subject: RE: latest win streak


No doubt you and the other "pessimists" will indeed be right back on the
bandwagon should the Celtics win.  But those of us who lay in on the line
emotionally before the event will enjoy the team's success on a much deeper
level.  Some of us would bet on the celtics and do, constantly - and not
with money, but with our hearts.

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Liles, Donald [SMTP:liles@hr.upenn.edu]
	Sent:	Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:02 PM
	To:	'mgriffin@rillc.com'; Liles, Donald; celtics@igtc.com
	Subject:	RE: latest win streak

	Michael,

	I would not bet $100 on anything, but then again I am not a
bettor.(sp?)

	My picking the losses against the Bulls and Hawks was not due to
their being
	back
	to back, but rather that our team isn't a good road team. Could they
beat
	both
	teams, yes. Is it possible that they could lose to the Hawks in
Atlanta, I
	think the fact that they lost to both teams already this year would
say yes.
	And with the Bulls, they have already lost to them, another loss on
one of
	the games they have left is not out of the question. Pick another
game if
	you prefer. The whole any team can beat any other team logic went in
there.
	 
	At most I think they will win 13 games.  I also think that the team
will
	quit again
	at one point of another. This team just makes me such a pessimist, I
am
	tired of hoping
	every year they will get better and they don't. You are just getting
my rant
	in my normal
	(at least for the past several years) mid season disappointment. 

	Hey, don't get me wrong, if they make the playoffs, I will cheer. I
would
	rather that
	they get the wins than not, it might make me like the NBA again. I
just
	don't think
	that it will happen, no matter how much we want to "will" it to
happen.

	just my thoughts,

	Don

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Michael Griffin [mailto:mgriffin@rillc.com]
	Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:48 PM
	To: Liles, Donald; celtics@igtc.com
	Subject: RE: latest win streak


	They may indeed be playing over their head but prediction that they
will
	lose back to back against the Bulls and the Hawks?!  I assume you
went to
	the extreme the other way just to prove a point.  I'll bet you $100
that the
	Celtics do better than 9-24.  Are you in or do you just like to post
	outrageous predictions (ironic because outrageous predictions were
the
	supposed reason for your post and then you type in 9-24!)?

	I hope you take my bet because it will be something the list can
watch with
	interest the rest of the year.

	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: owner-celtics@igtc.com [mailto:owner-celtics@igtc.com]On
Behalf Of
	> Liles, Donald
	> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:03 PM
	> To: 'celtics@igtc.com'
	> Subject: latest win streak
	>
	>
	> Folks,
	>
	> I can't keep from scratching my head as to what I have been
reading on the
	> list.
	> The Celts are going to sweep the Lakers, and beat most of the
	> western teams
	> on the road?
	> I appreciate that we want to root for the team, but let's be
serious. This
	> team is not that good.
	> If we were in the mid 80s, yes they could do quite well on the
road.
	>
	> I also want to agree with Mark. Yes, Antoine and Paul, and no
doubt many
	> others on the team
	> quit on Pitino. I am not that surprised about Antoine, he lost my
	> respect a
	> few years ago. I guess
	> Paul is the classy player I thought that he was. Blow up the team,
heck
	> trade it with the Grizzlies since
	> they want to move anyway (couldn't see that coming). The captains
are a
	> disgrace, I hope they have to play
	> for the Clippers the rest of their career. Even with a new coach
and gm in
	> the future, I still don't think that they
	> are going to be winning anything anytime soon.
	>
	> The team is not good, the fact that they won games going into the
allstar
	> break means nothing other than
	> perhaps they were playing teams taking it a little easy while they
were
	> playing over their heads. This is
	> definitely a four quarter season, and just as in a game, a scoring
spurt
	> entering halftime does not a victory
	> make. With the schedule ahead, I can't understand some of the
predictions.
	> My predictions are as follows
	> for the rest of the season: 9-24. And a chance to draft poorly in
June.
	>
	> Tue February 13 at Vancouver Grizzlies (W)
	> Thu February 15 at Seattle SuperSonics (L)
	> Sat February 17 at Portland Trail Blazers (L)
	> Mon February 19 at Utah Jazz (L)
	> Tue February 20 at Houston Rockets (W)
	> Thu February 22 at Dallas Mavericks (L)
	> Fri February 23 at San Antonio Spurs (L)
	> Mon February 26 Seattle SuperSonics (L)
	> Thu March 1 at New York Knicks (L)
	> Fri March 2 Utah Jazz (L)
	> Sun March 4 Charlotte Hornets (W)
	> Wed March 7 Milwaukee Bucks (L)
	> Fri March 9 Washington Wizards (L)
	> Sun March 11 Philadelphia 76ers (L)
	> Tue March 13 at Los Angeles Lakers (L)
	> Thu March 15 at Phoenix Suns (L)
	> Fri March 16 at Denver Nuggets (W)
	> Wed March 21 San Antonio Spurs (L)
	> Thu March 22 at New Jersey Nets (W)
	> Sun March 25 Chicago Bulls (W)
	> Tue March 27 at Atlanta Hawks (L)
	> Thu March 29 at Chicago Bulls (L)
	> Fri March 30 Indiana Pacers (L)
	> Sun April 1 at Charlotte Hornets (L)
	> Tue April 3 at Miami Heat (L)
	> Wed April 4 at Orlando Magic (W)
	> Fri April 6 Los Angeles Lakers (L)
	> Sat April 7 at Washington Wizards (W)
	> Mon April 9 at Philadelphia 76ers (L)
	> Wed April 11 Miami Heat (L)
	> Fri April 13 at Indiana Pacers (L)
	> Sun April 15 New Jersey Nets (W)
	> Wed April 18 Charlotte Hornets (L)
	>
	> Perhaps I am grumpy watching the Sixers play so well locally, but
I just
	> don't think the celts are going anywhere
	> again this year.
	>
	> Don
	>