Now who were those 8 or 9 guys drafted ahead of Paul Pierce and how many of them would you now rather have than him? And I could not believe when I read the other day that whoever drafted Joe Kleine #5 in the 1985 draft could have instead drafted Karl Malone! He and Bill Walton have been the only Celtics I've not liked in my 37 year career as a Celtics fan. Vinny