Re: Criticism

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.eastlink.ca>]

I rest my case.

I've never once tried to inhibit anyone from stating their opinion.  And I
try to stay away from namecalling.  But the free speech which you treasure
so works two ways.

Cecil

----- Original Message -----
From: Jaime Salud Castillo, Jr. <jaims@philonline.com>
To: Juddy <norine@sover.net>; celts <celtics@igtc.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Criticism


> Hi Dorine.  I am with you and your feelings all the way.  Everything
you've
> said is exactly how I feel too.
>
> Obviously, Cecil Wrigt is the guy who hates it most when we try to say "we
> like the improvement now, but Pitino is still not the answer"...
>
> Ain't this list for free speech and a place to say our views and feelings
> whenever we want???
> Everyone's got his/her opinions so we put it here, right?  So why the heck
> does he think that putting our own opinions(especially opposed to his)
about
> the "system breakdown" is not welcome?
>
> Darn it, he thinks he's so cool and beyond all of us because he has the
> "patience and love for Pitino and his damned system" and we aren't because
> we don't like it!  And because of this, he accuses us of not being true
> Celtics fans...what a jerk.  When will he know that this list is for FREE
> SPEECH!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Juddy <norine@sover.net>
> To: celts <celtics@igtc.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:48 AM
> Subject: Criticism
>
>
> > Hi, guys and gals -
> >     Back on my soapbox - I'll never learn.
> >     First of all, it's been a long, long, long time since the Celtlics
> were a good team, not to mention a great one.  I think most of us don't
dare
> get our hopes up too soon - but that does NOT mean we don't take great joy
> in watching the team play well - and win.  The past week or so has been
alot
> of fun, but you keep waiting for the axe to fall or something.  I don't
dare
> get too hyped because it's a long, hard fall.  All the positives are
> obvious, but I want to answer the posts about how some of us feel about
> Pitino - or more to the point, how I feel.
> >     I never wanted Pitino to coach the Celts, everybody on this list
knows
> that. I don't care how successful he's been everywhere - he never coached
a
> young team in the NBA, just an established team.  He actually said a week
or
> two ago he'd never be happy behind the scenes - he has to coach.  He said
> being the President just meant there was nobody above him to second guess
> him.  But in getting the title of President he took it away from Red, who
> was not too happy about it - and why should he be?  He made the Celtics
what
> they became - the most storied franchise in the history of the NBA, bar
> none!  So nobody would be above Pitino, he had to have that title.  That
by
> itself would be enough for me, but there's much, much more - his bad
deals,
> long, costly contracts he can't blame on anyone else - the promises he
> should never have made - the list goes on.  As for the press - he didn't
> invent it, other teams use it, too.  It's part of basketball, not Pitino
> ball.  And last but not!
> >  least, there's his screaming all the game long.  If he's the coach he's
> supposed to be, the game plan should be in place, the troups should know
the
> ropes and he should not have to direct every move from the bench.
> >     I don't personally believe he was as much upset about the booing
> (though I'm as upset about booing your own team as any of you) as he was
> that he was getting the bad press.  He's not accustomed to that.  Did that
> fire up the team to achieve more?  Maybe, maybe not - I don't know.  I'm
> glad some-thing did.
> >     I'm older than most of you - so maybe I see things differently, and
> that's my privilege - but even though these players are young, they are
old
> enough to drink and to vote - some of them are married with children, so
> they are not children and should not be treated as such.
> >     I want this team to achieve, and I want them to be in the spotlight,
> not the coach.  Is that wrong?  I don't think so.  The fact that they're
> winning more games and are fun to watch at long last is wonderful, but it
> doesn't suddenly make me forgive Pitino.  Flame me all you want, but
> understand you cannot change a person's mind about something like that -
> only time, if anything, can do that.  One thing that can be blamed on
Gaston
> is giving RP too much power.  I think a coach should coach.  Someone else
> should be making other decisions, even though the coach should have a
say -
> just not the final one.  He's proven he's not good at some things.  End of
> rant, but I think you jump too fast to condem people for not agreeing
about
> everything.
> > Dorine
> >
> >
>