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Peter May On Baker, Pitino, and the Summer League



Pitino says Walker and him have a difference in philosophies; May
says the Boston Summer league is important to Ellison; the other
Walker, Wally from Seattle has not heard from Boston about Baker.
As for myself, I'm going with what Jersey Red said: Mercer is the
viable trade option; the C's would need more than Baker for Walker...


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                                PRO BASKETBALL NOTES (snips)
                                It's not a secure feeling in Seattle

                                Sonics have no lock on Baker, and if
                                door's open, Pittino may enter

                                By Peter May, Globe Staff, 07/25/99

                                   SAN JUAN - The president and
                                general manager of the Seattle
                                SuperSonics made a brief appearance here
                                this week at the Tournament of the
                                Americas. It was well timed. Wally Walker
                                got to see one of his players, Gary
                                Payton, one of his free agents, Vin Baker,
                                and also saw Aaron Goodwin, who represents
                                both players.

                                But he was back in Seattle at week's end
                                with as full a plate as any NBA executive
                                - and the Aug. 1 land rush is only seven
                                days away. It is a balancing act for
                                certain.

                                Already we are seeing signs that some
                                teams that played well last season and had
                                pretty good records are thinking about
                                blowing it all up. (They could also hire
                                Don Nelson to do it for them, but he's
                                taken.) Orlando is rebuilding. Atlanta
                                appears to be rebuilding (Steve Smith is
                                rumored to be headed to Portland and
                                Mookie Blaylock already is gone.) Seattle
                                didn't play well last season and, as the
                                English might say, is between sixes and
                                sevens.

                                Walker has a team both young and old. As
                                presently constituted, it's not nearly
                                good enough. But it's a team that recently
                                has been very good. Walker is trying to
                                reload (the Horace Grant trade) and
                                rebuild simultaneously and that's a tough
                                act. His big star, Payton, wants it now.
                                His second big star, Baker, isn't sure
                                what he's going to do. Another star,
                                Detlef Schrempf, is a free agent and all
                                but gone. Olden Polynice is a free agent,
                                not to mention certifiable.

                                ''With the Grant trade, we sent a message,
                                loud and clear, to our players and our
                                fans that we're serious right now,''
                                Walker said.

                                Payton has been all over the map down here
                                discussing the situation back home. He
                                wants veterans; Mitch Richmond's name has
                                come up, at least in his mind. He wants
                                the kids to grow up. He has issued a
                                challenge to coach Paul Westphal. He
                                issued a challenge to the team's young
                                players. He issued a challenge to Walker.

                                ''We've got to get meaner guys. We can't
                                keep going with young guys. We've got
                                enough young guys,'' Payton said. ''We
                                drafted three young guys last year and
                                that didn't work. We didn't have no
                                veterans [uh, Gary, you had plenty; you
                                just didn't win.] We can't start over. I
                                can't. I can't start over with young guys.
                                We need to get back on top of the West.

                                ''It won't happen again,'' he said,
                                referring to last season's lottery finish.
                                ''We're going to make changes and do the
                                right thing. I like the Horace trade as
                                long as Horace comes in and plays like he
                                can play. It's good for Vin, too. That
                                makes me a happy man.''

                                Walker is not in an enviable position.
                                Just looking at Baker these last 10 days
                                drives home his dilemma. On one hand, you
                                have a player who was an All-Star, but
                                never won anything. That may have simply
                                been a misfortune of playing for a bad
                                team. Then, last year, Baker was awful. He
                                still looks overweight and, although he
                                insists otherwise, there's no guarantee he
                                will return to previous form. And there's
                                $70 million at stake.

                                This is why the Celtics are interested in
                                him. Rick Pitino relishes the prospect of
                                rejuvenating careers and Baker is prime
                                rejuvenation material. Baker also has been
                                around, which makes him valuable on a
                                young team. The deal would be for Antoine
                                Walker but would have to include a third
                                team, probably Chicago. The Bulls would
                                want their pound of flesh, but only in
                                picks and/or players in the last year of
                                their contracts; Pervis Ellison (see
                                below) would be a perfect fit here.

                                ''We would have great interest in Vin
                                Baker,'' Pitino said this week on ESPN's
                                Up Close. ''If Vin would like to play for
                                us, we hope it comes true.''

                                Wally Walker said he has not heard from
                                the Celtics about Baker - it would have to
                                be a sign-and-trade deal. He said he is
                                convinced that he will re-sign Baker and
                                that Baker wants to stay in Seattle. ''Vin
                                has told me consistently that he wants to
                                be in Seattle,'' Walker said. ''He feels
                                he has got a lot to prove.''

                                Baker does have a lot to prove. Baker and
                                Payton are good friends, they have the
                                same agent, and, as Payton said, ''I don't
                                think we traded Shawn Kemp to have Vin
                                Baker for two years.''

                                Stranger things have happened.

                                No Jersey guys in town

                                The Celtics' summer league opens tomorrow
                                at UMass-Boston and the Nets are in a
                                tizzy. ''Did Rick not schedule us because
                                he was afraid of Don Casey's juggernaut?''
                                cracked Nets general manager John Nash.
                                Well, we can't say. But the Celtics play
                                every team but New Jersey over the six
                                days, including the German Select Team.
                                The new rules will be in effect, which
                                means there will be a lot of fouls, free
                                throws, and delayed starts. There are six
                                NBA teams competing, seven if you insist
                                on counting the Wizards: Boston, New
                                Jersey, Indiana, Philadelphia, Seattle,
                                New York, and Washington. Rosters were
                                sketchy heading into the weekend, but
                                Celtics GM Chris Wallace said that
                                Ellison, who was in Boston working out
                                this weekend, will play. You draw your own
                                conclusions. If he's going to be included
                                in any deal, the receiving team has to
                                know if he can play. If he's going to
                                stick around, the Celtics would like to
                                know if he can play. This is the last year
                                of Ellison's six-year, thank-you-ML deal.
                                He's not too old to keep going, but he
                                simply has been unable to stay healthy.
                                The Bulls could throw him out there for a
                                year if they are indeed midwiving the
                                three-team Baker deal. Chicago wants to be
                                well under the cap next summer as well
                                (things didn't exactly turn out as the
                                Bulls hoped this summer). Among players
                                who could be free agents next summer are
                                Grant Hill and Tim Duncan ... The Celtics
                                are coming off an 8-0 run in the Fila
                                Summer Pro League in Long Beach, Calif. -
                                and they may not be invited back for using
                                too many ringers. While most teams opted
                                to play rookies, free agents, and scrubs,
                                the Celtics used rookies, free agents,
                                scrubs, and starters. Paul Pierce played
                                in five games and was a man among boys.
                                Vitaly Potapenko played in all eight games
                                and was among men. Tony Battie played in
                                all eight games (hint: he played well,
                                now's the time to deal him). When Pierce
                                left, Walter McCarty showed up for the
                                last three games. Wayne Turner also played
                                in all eight games and, according to
                                Wallace, fared well. Another solid
                                performer was CBA MVP Adrian Griffin, who
                                is making a strong run to crack an NBA
                                roster ... More
                                from Pitino on Up Close: Regarding Walker
                                and Ron Mercer, he said, ''We don't have
                                any problems, we have differences in
                                philosophy. I'm more from the Bill Russell
                                philosophy in terms of team and
                                discipline. They're just young. They have
                                to learn.'' He also said that if the two
                                think he is too hard on them, ''what I'd
                                like to do is send them down for two weeks
                                in Miami. They'd come back with a
                                different attitude.''

                              
                                This story ran on page D13 of the Boston
                                Globe on 07/25/99.
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