Re: The Crank-Meter -Reply

[Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com>]

Sorry, I got carried away.  But really, to say after
this trade, which is so lopsided, that you would
rather have ML Carr at the helm is really nuts.  I
realize it was Mishra who said this.  I apologize for
my remarks anyway.  I just can't believe there is
anyone that doesn't love this trade!  Don't worry
Ryan; you'll see how well this turns out.  


--- Ryan Falcone <FalconeR@nvg.com> wrote:
> Josh:
> 
> Not only is this uncalled for, but it is completely
> inaccurate.  The fact that
> you are unwilling to consider potentially negative
> ramifications of this
> trade show how oblivious you are to the risk
> involved.
> 
> Further, I am neither a "Pitino-hater" nor a
> "prickly pear," and don't much
> care for your categorical classification of me as
> such.  I suggest that you
> try to keep a more open mind on the forum; just
> because you are
> unreceptive to the opinions of others does not mean
> that the rest of
> the list is.  
> 
> Josh, I normally like / agree with your posts, but
> your last one was
> inappropriate.
> 
> Ryan
> 
> >>> Josh Ozersky <josh_ozersky@yahoo.com> 08/03/99
> 02:03pm >>>
> Not to put to fine a point on it, anyone who doesn't
> like this trade is a stone nut and/or a crank.  This
> is one of the most lopsided trades the Celtics have
> ever made, and makes sense from every conceivable
> angle.  If you are down on it you are just a
> Pitino-hater and a prickly pear, and have no
> credibility with me anymore.  Which is too bad,
> because I never thought Ryan and Mishra were cranks.
> 
> But there is no room for disagreement on this
> momentous occasion!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Ryan Falcone <FalconeR@nvg.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >>> Shailendra Mishra
> <shailendra_mishra@yahoo.com>
> > 08/03/99
> > 12:00pm >>>
> > I am  terribly disappointed with this trade.
> Mercer
> > had his
> > limitations, but he also had tremendous upside. I
> > don't see the same
> > potential in the incumbents that we have got in
> > return. With this trade
> > Pitino has proven to me he is clueless as far as
> the
> > pro-game is
> > concerned. He is a poor evaluator of talent, he
> > plays favourites and
> > has ruined this team. Mercer may have been asking
> > more money but if
> > Pitino had not given that stupid contract to
> McCarty
> > that money would
> > have been there to sign Mercer.
> > 
> > Just imagine with the 3rd and 6th pick in 1997
> draft
> > we have got
> > Anderson, Fortson and 1st round pick. I am not
> > counting Eric Williams
> > because he was already there. I hated the Billups
> > trade and I hate this
> > one and I am convinced we were much better with
> > M.L.Carr at the
> > helm..Pitino is a joke. - Mishra <<<
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > A little harsher than what I might have said, but
> > essentially I agree with
> > Mishra.  If Fortson is so much better than
> > Mercer--as many are
> > asserting--then why would Denver throw in a future
> > first round draft
> > pick?  Fortson had a very good year (and a great
> > year on the glass, to
> > be sure), but I have my doubts about his ability
> to
> > play defense in this
> > kind of system.  I've listened to everyone talk
> > about his ostensible lateral
> > quickness and how he played in a similar system at
> > Cincinnati, but there
> > is a big difference between giving your all for 30
> > games and giving your
> > all during the course of an 82 game season.
> > 
> > Incidentally, I think that it's highly unlikely
> that
> > the draft pick will end up
> > being low enough to be especially valuable. 
> Denver
> > now has McDyess,
> > LaFrentz, Billups, Van Exel, and Mercer, and are
> > pretty well-stocked.  In
> > a year or two, they will probably be a formidable
> > team in the western
> > conference.
> > 
> > Finally, I'm very worried about Pierce playing
> > full-time at the two guard
> > position.  His game is much more suited for small
> > forward--especially
> > defensively.  And while he is a very good shooter,
> > that in and of itself is
> > not a determinant of success at the "two."  For
> all
> > of the Mercer
> > detractors who lamented Ron's poor ball handling,
> > wasn't that precisely
> > the biggest knock against Pierce pre-draft 1998,
> > too?  So then what did
> > we gain?
> > 
> > And while we're discussing the potential void at
> the
> > shooting guard
> > position, forget about Griffin playing extended
> > minutes there; he's a burly
> > small forward all the way.  He will take (and
> make)
> > some perimeter
> > shots, but I question his overall quickness /
> > ability to stick with "twos"
> > defensively  (for what it's worth, I liked his
> > acquisition very much, but I've
> > watched him play numerous times when he was at
> Seton
> > Hall, and I
> > assure everyone that he is NOT a guard).
> > 
> > I do like picking up the Erics:  Williams and
> > Washington.  I think that they
> > significantly upgrade the second unit.  However, I
> > have lingering doubts
> > about both Pitino's overall general manager
> aptitude
> > and whether this
> > trade will improve the overall play of the team.
> > 
> > To wit:  if Mercer would have completed his
> college
> > eligibility, he likely
> > would have been the number one pick in the
> > draft--certainly among the
> > top three.  So, we traded a player with a
> tremendous
> > upside for a
> > somewhat limited, undersized power forward and a
> > draft pick that isn't
> > likely to be all that high.  We have a glut of
> small
> > forwards, but no
> > shooting guard on the roster with the  ability /
> > talent to be a full-time
> > starter.  We have an owner who is unwilling to pay
> > the salary demands
> > of an up-and-coming second year backcourt stud,
> and
> > a front office
> > who compensate by going out and trading him for
> > another second year
> > player who will command a higher salary by virtue
> of
> > his tremendous
> > past year.
> > 
> > To revisit Mishra, I'm not sure that I totally
> > condemn this trade, but I think
> > that at best it could work either way.
> > 
> > Ryan
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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