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Re: Possible Fortson trade



I have to eat crow here myself, after dogging celtics
fans for presuming that they could get Danny Fortson
for Ron Mercer.  It turns out we can get Danny Fortson
and Eric Williams for Ron Mercer and a player who may
never suit up again!  I can't imagine why Pitino
wouldn't jump at this deal.  Make the trades, and then
sort out the financial details later.  I really don't
ever want to hear about the budget again.  What a
cheap bastard that Gaston is.


--- j.hironaka@unesco.org wrote:
> Alex Wang wrote:
> 
> > The Boston Herald reports that Denver is
> interested in Ron Mercer and
> > Popeye Jones for Danny Fortson and Eric Williams.
> While I doubt that
> > Pitino is willing to take on Williams' inflated
> contract (supposedly
> > Denver is trying to dump it on anyone they can), I
> feel more optimistic
> > knowing that Mercer is worth at least this much.
> Of course, Fortson
> > probably presents a negotiating dilemma as
> difficult as Mercer's.
> 
> In my opinion, there will be no negotiating dilemma.
> Fortson is the #4
> rebounder in the NBA (in only 28.3 mpg) and, for a
> 23-years-old big man, he
> nails his freethrows and also converted an unselfish
> and efficient  #8
> overall field goal percentage.
> 
> When Pitino pleaded that his budget is only 3
> million (the total of two FA
> exceptions) above the salary cap , I believe he was
> being disingenuous.
> 
> Last year Pitino said he had the authority in
> writing to pay free agents up
> to 14 million per year without permission. I don't
> think that has changed.
> Think of it this way: on a 15 man roster (we carried
> 16 last year I
> believe), the new salary cap averages out in the
> ballpark of 2.5 million
> dollars per player. In other words, the salary cap
> is unrealistically low.
> For every Kenny Anderson-size contract (8 million) 
> Pitino/Wallace must
> find, and keep all season, four bums at the
> Duh-wayne "Vanilla Ice
> Lookalike from Hell" Shintzius asking price (1
> million). Even for every
> measly Dana Barros or Popeye Jones contract, the
> Celts need to find several
> more minimum wage CBA-rejects to balance the books.
> Well I don't believe
> that "Thanks Dad" Gaston is naive enough to believe
> fans will continue
> paying good money to watch the ability of the
> Celtics to compete torpedoed
> every night by the 8 or 9  sub-NBA-standard players
> on our team like Marlon
> Garnett and Shintzius.
> 
> Trust me folks, NOBODY in the league genuinely
> expects to compete at the
> new salary cap. Despite having several below-market
> price contracts, the
> Bulls won their championships with a team payroll
> that nearly doubled the
> present cap. Many playoff teams continue to compete
> with 60 million dollar
> payrolls (Knicks, Portland etc.) By contrast, the
> Celts in Pitino's first
> year had the 8th lowest payroll and "coincidentally"
> finished tied for the
> 9th worst lottery record. This past season, the
> Celtics again had a
> reasonably low payroll (remember that Walker's
> extension didn't apply yet)
> and again finished "coincidentally" with a won-loss
> record reflecting
> Gaston's investment. Pitino initially made a massive
> effort to shed costs
> in his first year, hoping that this would give him
> cap room to compete for
> players exactly of his choice in the future. But
> when the new cap was fixed
> at millions below what he and everyone expected, I
> think he realized all
> his diligent work had been to no avail. I believe he
> is more than ready to
> spend the necessary money for key players (the only
> question is whom),
> within a budget far better reflecting the
> traditional size of the Celts
> market.
> 
> The bottom line is that Pitino has been concocting
> budgetary excuses to
> trade Mercer, since he's known the player since he
> was a kid and doesn't
> want to say anything negative. But if by a miracle
> he could trade Mercer to
> get a statistical Paul Silas-clone (Dan Fortson), I
> guarantee Pitino won't
> even pretend to hesitate (for appearance's sake)
> before re-signing Fortson
> this Summer to more money than Mercer is demanding.
> IMO, any 11 rpg per 28
> minutes player in the NBA is worth trading several 2
> assist, "great"
> mid-range shooters (.440%) like Ron Mercer. Dan
> Fortson's numbers talk. I
> wouldn't care if he were only 5 feet tall. The
> remarkable thing is that
> Denver 1) won't miss Fortson's rebounding (they have
> McDyess and LaFrentz);
> and 2) they are kind of a dumb franchise. The only
> reason this trade rumor
> sounds phony is that we can't possibly match up Eric
> Williams' salary
> unless Kenny Anderson or Popeye/Pervis were
> involved.
> 
> Joe
> 
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> 
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> 

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