Re: Dr. J and arrogance

["Cecil Wright" <cecil@hfx.andara.com>]

Thanks for jumping in Kevin.  If Rodman is being used as a measuring stick,
that really says something doesn't it?  This whole arrogance aspect is being
overplayed.  Truth is talent and teamwork makes winners.  Arrogant attitudes
can work to  a disadvantage as much as anything.  If Rodman's arrogance was
viewed as  such a positive for his team why is he not with the Pistons?  He
can rebound and play defence.  I won't argue that, but please don't hint
that his *attitude* is perceived as a positive by anyone other than a biased
Isiah Thomas.

He would still be with the Spurs if he was such a positive guy.  The Admiral
would have risen to his defence in order to keep him.  Stands to reason that
Robinson was the biggest beneficiary of the Worm's presence with the
additional frontcourt help.  And with the Bulls having 2 of the games best
players, Rodman has no scoring load to carry.  It's a job unlike most NBA
players.  ONE DIMENSIONAL!

Rodman's arrogance has also caused suspensions, technicals and countless
clashes with teammates, which I hardly view as *great*.  A pattern which
Toine should want to avoid I'd think.   Maybe Toine should arrange to also
marry himself :-)  Who would you want to instruct your young team, Doc or
Rodman?

Cecil
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Robertson <kroberts@asid.org>
To: celtics <celtics@igtc.COM>
Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 11:24 AM
Subject: Dr. J and arrogance


>If you will check the original quote, he did not say great players need
>arrogance and swagger to be great, he said great teams need a player with
>arrogance and swagger. Rodman did it for the Bulls, Pistons and Spurs;
Larry
>did it for the Celts; Magic and Jabbar did it for the Lakers. Though I
would
>not put Dr. J in that group, i would put both Moses Malone and Bobby Jones
>in that category.
>
>Great teams need someone who makes everyone else confident and energized by
>knowing in their hearts that they can't be beat. Whether you like it or
not,
>Antoine does that for this team. I do disagree with hart about the mercer
>comment. My point has always been that if Walker plays more vconfident by
>
>Kevin Robertson
>
>Hart wrote:
>
>But I guess maybe most people on this list want a bunch of do gooders to
>play for the Celtics. I for one don't. All the great teams in my memory all
>had
>players that showed an arrogance and confidence while playing. Think
>about it, that is what builds champion teams. Now we have people who
>want to let Antoine leave to another team using phony statistics as an
>excuse, but in reality do not like his attitude and personality.
>
>Cecil wrote:
>I brought up Erving and I will not apologize for it.  It revolved around
>great players having a large degree of arrogance in oder to be successful,
>NOT JUST SECOND YEAR PLAYERS!  I mentioned the Doc as a player who was
>successful without being arrogant IMO.
>
>
>If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
>Kevin T. Robertson
>Communications Manager
>krobertson@asid.org
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