Re: RE: Vin Baker

["Timothy Jordan" <patsrule90@geocities.com>]

There is no way that Pitino will trade Chauncey Billups.  You guys can talk
all you want, but Pitino thinks high of this guy.  It would have to take a
ridiculous offer to pry Chauncey from Boston.  And that deal is far from
profitable for the Celtics.  He has as much insurance as Antoine in my
opinion.  A lineup with Chauncey and EW looks more impressive in my
opinion.  In time, I know that Chauncey will be much better than Baker.  We
need to remember that Baker is not exactly a great power forward.  He is
not top 5.  Why should we give up a young pg, a promising sf, a very
sharpshooter, and another high pick for an AVERAGE pf  and a sucky pg? 

        Timothy Jordan
        PatsRule90@geocities.com
        http://members.aol.com/PatsRule90
        
        ** PATRIOTS IN '98 **

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> From: SKMISHRA.US.ORACLE.COM <SKMISHRA@us.oracle.com>
> To: celtics@igtc.COM
> Subject: Re: RE: Vin Baker
> Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 6:47 PM
> 
> > I agree with you that Baker is a very talented player, but what will 
> > Baker by himself be able to accomplish in Boston? Milwaukee is unlikely

> > to give up Baker for Billups, Williams and deadwood. If they did, then 
> > what would we do for a point guard?  
>  
> Suppose for the sake of argument we give away Billups + Williams + Barros
+ 
> 1st rounder in 99 for Baker and Elliot Perry. We have the following
lineup: 
> PG: Brown , Perry 
> SG: Mercer, Minor 
> SF: Walker, ?? 
> PF: Baker,  Andrew DeClercq 
> C:  Knight, Ellison 
>  
> This is a good team with a bonafide star. we are weak at center and pg,
the 
> former we can have only serviceable one's but a good pg can be aquired.
We all 
> know that it is easier to aquire a star guard <unless he happens to be MJ
or 
> maybe Penny Hardaway> then to aquire a PF or a center.    
>  
> > I think we need to be patient here. The nucleus is beginning to develop

> > - let's see how it performs next season before making any judgements as

> > to replacements/trades, etc.  
>  
> I don't see the value of patience here, we need to improve our team right
now. 
> we need to go to playoffs the coming season. Coaches who wait for talent
to 
> develop are losers in my book and you can lookup any number of examples. 
>  
> > What do you think of getting de Clerq instead of Weatherspoon and Cage?

>  
> DeClercq is a good backup and I have watched him quite a lot since I live
in 
> sanfrancisco. He gives us some atheleticism and rebounding but he is
terribly 
> foul prone and misses lot of easy put-ups. He is a hardworking guy which
is a 
> big positive but I don't see him playing more than 15 minutes.
Weatherspoon on 
> the otherhand could have been a starter at PF but then our front line
becomes 
> small and I hate that. We need size and that's one reason why I like
Baker. He 
> can postup, rebound, block shots, play defense and vitually guarantees 20
pts 
> and 10 boards almost every game. This would specially be valuable,
keeping in 
> mind that we are not going to see even half of that kind of production
from 
> our center. 
>                                       - Mishra
>