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Re: Good Housekeeping Award ?



Hi,

You said that other than signing Barros Carr did well but that is not true.
He has signed 5 players to major contracts who do not deserve half the
money they are now making.

Tim

>I believe it was other than the Montross deal. IMO Barros, Brown, Ellison,
>Minor, & Radja were stinkers.
>
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>> From: Tim Nault <rnault@ptialaska.net>
>> To: Adam A Suchocki <Twilight@world.std.com>
>> Cc: celtics@igtc.com
>> Subject: Re: Good Housekeeping Award ?
>> Date: Monday, April 21, 1997 12:18 AM
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree with you some and I disagree with you some on your post.  Yes
>> Carr can't accurately be evaluated as a coach because most of his guys
>> have been injured.  However, you said that other than the Barros deal he
>> has done well.  Well lets have a look-see at that.
>>
>> Ellison- Making a lot of money for a guy who never plays and isn't good
>> when he does.
>>
>> Greg Minor- Lots of potential, yes, but he hasn't done anything to
>> deserve his pay check.
>>
>> Dino Radja-  The guy is good, but he is making WAY too much money!
>>
>> Tim
>> rnault@ptialaska.net
>>
>> -----------------------
>>
>>
>> Adam A Suchocki wrote:
>> >
>> > Mark me down as someone not in favor of a house cleaning.  The examples
>> > being thrown around as teams doing the right thing by firing coaches
>and
>> > GM's (Philly, Denver) have been doing that every year.  Both teams are
>> > totally disorganized and have very bad chemistry, and this has to be in
>> > part due to the constantly changing management.  Players don't know who
>to
>> > listen to, 'cause the coach or GM might be gone next year, and a
>strange
>> > collection of players is achieved as each year new management comes in
>> > with a new plan and a new list of players they want.  You get teams
>like
>> > Philly that have most of their players playing out of position because
>the
>> > new management wasn't able to move the players they didn't want , but
>they
>> > went ahead and aquired new ones anyway.
>> >
>> > You can knock Carr for being to optimistic at times, and you can knock
>him
>> > for the Barros deal, but other than that, he has done more than anyone
>in
>> > the Boston media thought was possible for this team.
>> >
>> > Two years ago, everyone in the Boston media (and nationally - see peter
>> > vescey) proclaimed the Celtics as the franchise with the worst future
>in
>> > the league.  Despite some salary cap problems, ML has done something in
>> > two years that all said was impossible - he rebuilt the team with a
>> > nucleus of young talented players.  Walker, Williams, Wessley, Minor +
>2
>> > lottery picks is a very good nucleus after two years.  Ad to that
>veteran
>> > leadership in Fox, Radja, and maybe Barros or Conlon, and the team
>appears
>> > to have a good balance to talent and experience to steadily improve
>over
>> > the next few years.  The bootom line is, for the first time in several
>> > years, it looks like the team should stedily improve each year instead
>of
>> > slowly decline.
>> >
>> > Could there be beter management available than ML and company?
>Possibly.
>> > But can we get someone in who won't tear apart the good moves in search
>of
>> > the type of nucleus they'd like to work with (we don't need Nellie or
>> > Larry Brown coming in and trading away are best assets because they
>don't
>> > fit their style or play - if the team was contending right now, I'd say
>> > sure, juggle the pieces and find the right combination for your
>coaching
>> > style - like Riley did in Miami - but first you need to let your
>> > foundation stabalize.  Give the 3 W's more time to work together, and
>use
>> > the draft picks to fill in the gaps (throw in Duncan and Foyle and
>things
>> > start looking pretty nice).  But you don't want the players constantly
>at
>> > odds with management.  The key players all like ML, and they seem to
>> > respect him.  Over the enxt couple of years, a little respect between
>the
>> > players and the management can make the free agency market a lot less
>> > painless, and it can help to keep the young players focussed on
>> > improvement instead of wondering where they are going to play next year
>> > and trying to figure out who in management they should listen to.
>> >
>> > The Celtics have achieved a lot with hard work and good decision making
>in
>> > the past, but they also have done very well with loyalty to management
>and
>> > players.  A lot of their free agent moves have revovled around players
>> > wanting to come to Boston - Bill Walton for example.  The team needs to
>> > maintain that loyalty so hey can continue to attract players like Vin
>> > BAker who long for the Celtic Mystique.
>> >
>> > Anyway, aslong as ML hasn't done anything to hurt the franchise, and as
>> > long as he continues to move the team forward in the rebuilding
>process, I
>> > have trouble seeing anyone new who could come in and not set the
>> > rebuilding process back a few years.  With the 3 year rookie contracts,
>> > you need stability right from the start, and right now the 3 W's an Fox
>> > seem content with ML.  If the team doesn't improve over the next year
>and
>> > a half, then I say dump ML, otherwise, let him and the team continue to
>> > develop together.
>> >
>> > Adam


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