Re: charismatic leaders

[magik <magik1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

IMHO, Ian was probably makin' a joke!

magik

ps- without humor, ...

Helen wrote:

> come on tell me what`s Ian Anderson done against Pete Townshend - how did he
> "stab`im in the back", so you all call`im Ian-the-dick. I`m a big Jethro
> Tull fan, and I`ve always thought of Ian as an intelligent  gentleman, Tull
> music is magic and well, having read a lot about Ian Anderson and his lyrics
> and stuff, I simply can`t believe him capable of anything mean, like
> stabbing Pete in the back!
> Helen.
> And, pardon me, who doesn`t have a charismatic leader? Jethro Tull? Oh my my
> my... What`s a charismatic leader then? Examples? Proves? Well, of course
> i`m not following your discussion.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siegel, James" <james.siegel@hp.com>
> To: "Who List" <thewho@igtc.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:04 PM
> Subject: Picture Disc; T-shirts; Ian the Dick; Cult-ivate
>
> > My, my ain't Jo a prolific topic starter-upper!
> >
> > Godmother,
> >
> > >What ever happened to picture disks?  Did The Who have any?
> >
> > I have a Who Are You pic disc that has the original album cover on one
> > side, and then a group shot on the other.  I like it, even though I've
> > never played it.  Makes a nice decorative piece.  Although the wife
> > ordered me to take down my Quad poster and the WAY pic disc.  Damn.
> >
> > >I know what my favorite vintage <ouch> Who concert T-shirt is and
> > >why.........Black Max R & B......2nd fav is the black insleeves style
> > from
> > >1985.
> > >
> > >Anyone else?
> >
> > Sadly, I had that very same black MaxR&B tshirt (which was my #1
> > favorite as well) but that got swiped from a laundromat when I wasn't
> > looking.  Ah, those shitty days back when I rented.  Anyway, my second
> > fave was a grey Quad shirt from the Quad tours.  Nice greenish tinted
> > front with the album cover proudly displayed.  I used to wear that one
> > when I gigged with a working band.  That one mysteriously disappeared
> > into the abyss too.  I was interrogating the wife about that one no more
> > than a week ago as a matter of fact.  Wives have a way of making their
> > husband's clothes magically disappear, so she was the number one
> > suspect.  However, her ironclad alibi cleared her.  I guess the gremlins
> > are Who fans and ran off with it.  Bastard swine.
> >
> > >>Yes they did. I seem to remember Pete making some complementary
> > comments (about Jethro Tull)
> > >>about the band from the stage...on the Tanglewood boot?
> > >>
> > >
> > >yeah, that's right. it's on the maximum r&b DVD.
> >
> > What makes it worse is the fact that during the Tanglewood comments,
> > Pete even goes as far to say that Tull were a "really fine English"
> > group.  How great is that for a relatively new band, as Tull was at the
> > time, to get such a nice endorsement from one of the heavyweight groups,
> > i.e., The Who?  Nice of old Ian to stab Pete in the back when Pete was
> > there plugging his group early on.  What a dick.
> >
> > >the one thing they don't have, in my opinion, is the most critical
> > aspect to a true
> > >cult:  a charismatic leader.
> > >
> > >I am not an expert on cults, and all of what I know I have learned from
> >
> > >reading news of cults that have been IN the news.  The most notorious
> > cults
> > >have leaders that WANT their followers around them, commune- like:
> > (Charlie
> > >Manson, David Koresh, Realians to name a few).
> >
> > In the spirit of these great leaders, I would like to offer my services
> > as official figurehead, if you will, of the Who Cult.  I agree, Pete is
> > far too insecure to handle the job, and I would like to volunteer my
> > services.  One of my first decrees as Official Grand Poobah of The Who
> > Cult would be to carefully interview each female member in the nude to
> > be sure they are pure (and easy?).  Hey, it worked for Jim Jones before
> > the Kool Aid debacle.  Charlie Manson too; if we are to form a cult,
> > then diddling the female memebers is policy - sorry it isn't my rule, it
> > is a precident set by former cult leaders.  Secondly, I would like to
> > cultivate ideas from the female members, in the nude of course, in order
> > to have a more balanced sort of fanaticism.  I haven't thought of a
> > third policy to put in place yet, but you can bet that the female
> > members will be naked.  Lastly, if elected as Caesar of the Who Cult, I
> > will have my rivals killed off or exiled, and all the women naked.  Did
> > I forget about nude women?
> >
> > Grand Poobah in Colorado