Re: Pete oppressed by conservatives, you're damned skippy!

[The Real Me <emerald.eyes@xxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:03:48 -0800 (PST), "Mark R. Leaman"
<bushchoked@yahoo.com> wrote:

>><sigh>As I've repeatedly said here, Mark, that was from a friend's
>email.
>
>Leslie:
>
>Yes, and as I said "if Leslie is one" because of that. I think that was obviously giving you the benefit of the doubt. You don't come across as a conservative.
>

I don't think many people actually come off as the caricature of
conservatives that you drew here.

>>Yeesh! Do you stereotype much? 
>
>Generalize, yes, stereotype, no.
>
>>. Do you believe that all liberals think alike, too?
>
>No, I was generalizing. As one must when speaking (writing) about a large group of people.
>

Semantics. Whatever you call it, you made lots of overgeneralizations
about people.

>>Like many conservatives, I believe that sexual orientation is neither
>good nor bad, it just exists
>
>Watch out, that's a "liberal" point of view! And for the record, you're the ONLY conservative I've ever heard in 35 years who has said that.
>

Maybe if you listened more carefully, you'd hear more of that. Really.

>>gay-haters) on the left and that there are some profoundly stupid
>liberals incapable of complex thought?
>
>Sure, of course. Not many, though...generally what is called "liberal" thinking by the right is an intellectual process, and conservatives don't go through a thought process...just react, like "THAT'S WRONG!" without stopping to think. Like it or not, a person is judged by its loudest advocates...so Trent Lott is a poster boy for conservatives. And according to the latest legal brief filed by the Bush administration, that's a damned accurate call, too.
>

Actually, Lott was repudiated by the President and the party. Where
was the condemnation of former President Pro Tempore of the Senate and
former KKK Kleagle Robert Byrd from his party? Hell, they *knew* that
he was in the KKK and still made him their Majority Leader in the
Senate for a *decade*!

As for Bush's amicus filing, I think he's right -- telling people that
because of their skin color or ethnicity, they'll never be as good as
other people, so they'll always need special treatment and unfair
advantages *is* bigotry. It's telling people that they're not good
enough and will always have to depend on Big Gubmint to take care of
them. It also punishes people who've done nothing wrong.

>> I have to say that your
>attack on conservatives is one of the most heavy-handed I've seen in a
>long time -- and is just about everything you accuse us of being.
>
>I agree it's heavy handed...I'm tired of the heavy-handedness of conservatives, and will give as good as I get, and not happy at the conservatives who are labeling Pete Townshend a pedophile because he looked at some pictures on the Internet. And YES, they ARE conservatives because they have refused to see past a single bare fact (no pun intended). Am I everything I accused conservatives of being? No, of course not. My position is a thought-out position arrived at over the course of years. Not a knee-jerk response, like the one you might expect from the not-president who has taken a position against black Americans getting an equal opportunity.
>

Well, if you want to hop over to Usenet and take a look at the past
few days of posts in groups like alt.gossip.celebrities and see who
the biggest accusers are, I'll be happy to point out their political
affiliations to you. Especially the one to whom I posted verified
facts and she *still* did not want to know any facts. Guess what --
she votes far more like you than like I.

Oh, and one of Pete's biggest defenders is my father -- one of the
most conservative people I know (other than myself <g>). Come to think
of it, when the story first broke, he made what could be described as
a knee-jerk response -- to support and believe Pete.

Leslie


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