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Yep...I met Pete ahd Roger at the Who's Chicago concert on August 24th. Got a VIP pass and went backstage after the show where I went into their inner-sanctum and met Pete in his dressing room and Roger out in the hallway. Got autographs on two tour programs and I'm framing both to hang here in my law office.
The following night I met Simon Townshend at the Noblesville concert and we had a wonderful talk backstage for about 30 minutes. He was great and we not only discussed the Who's tour and his involvement in it, but his personal career, too. I was doing my diary entry about meetin P& R the night before and Simon came up and asked, "What'cha doin?" I showed him and he thought my diary-keeping was pretty cool. I told him his diary entries on his website were well-done, as well, and we had a nice chat about journaling in general.
Both shows, in Chicago & Noblesville, were ball-busters, and I can't wait to see them again at the House of Blues on 9/23.
Crazy Joe, Seymour, Indiana.
"Come and join the party dressed to kill."
The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
The Who Mailing List Digest
Monday, September 9 2002 Volume 09 : Number 259
In this issue:
Re: Single Vegas ticket Available
Re: album or no?
Revised:Single Vegas Ticket Available
Re: To Album or Not to Album.....
Re: A bit of Stones; (Feels Like) Starting Over
Now I'm puzzled...
Now I'm puzzled...
WGFA at NYC
The Who at #6...above the Stones.
To Album or Not to Album.....
Re: To Album or Not to Album.....
Questions...
Whochips in Vegas
Re: Questions...
WGFA at NYC
Re: Questions...
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:03:56 EDT
From: Zipzorb@cs.com
Subject: Re: Single Vegas ticket Available
Just passing this message on for a friend.
Need to get rid of a single Vegas ticket.
Great balcony seat!
Email me privately at zipzorb@cs.com
Mike
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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:12:41 -0600
From: Steve
Subject: Re: album or no?
Yes, enough new personnel to add freshnes to the mix - new personnel who
can really rock on on the old skins. Also the various other (+) reasons.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:25:25 EDT
From: Zipzorb@cs.com
Subject: Revised:Single Vegas Ticket Available
I posted this a moment ago without the seat location,here it is:
Its Balcony section 206, row 2 seat 1. Face value $303.00.
Email privately at zipzorb@cs.com if interested :)
Mike
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:00:34 -0400
From: Joe Lewinski
Subject: Re: To Album or Not to Album.....
Kevin O'Neal wrote:
>
>Ahhhhhh, I'm so fucking torn on this it hurts.
>It will be the biggest and most BITTER pill of all time to release a new
>album NOW after waiting ALL THIS FUCKING TIME. Why now???? Why not 5 years
>ago? Why not 10 years ago??
>NOW???
>Now that John is gone??
>I don't know if I can see past the sparks of confusion and pain at the
>thought.
>My mind misfires when I think about it. What kind of fucking sense does
>this make???
>And, I'm sorry, but I don't care about momentum anymore.
>A new album now will be hammered by those that set reputation by sheer
>repetitive vomiting of critical assholes.....I mean opinion.
>Having tracks with John on them will ease some of the pain. But only SOME!
>Either way, it will be a head scratcher, and The Who's reputation will again
>be dragged through the mud.
>
The only analogy I have is from the world of sports. It is entertainment,
and there are magical moments for sure, but you sometimes have a bad game,
road-trip or season. The players also change, as does the complexion of
the team. They may be a defensive oriented team with little flash on
offense. They could be a finesse team or bullies. Bottom line is the
hat or jersey you buy as a fan is a life-long emotional investment. In the
end, the mascot and the rules are the only sources of continuity in sports.
People seem to need continuity and reliability.
With The Who, there will always be games or seasons that I'll cherish,
players and personalities, interviews and sometimes losses that I will
remember fondly and some not so fondly. We have much more than a mascot
and rules to satisfy our need for continuity. We have the MUSIC, the
TARGET, and thousands of different gestures from our favorite players.
Some of the music were hits, some were strike-outs, and many were home-runs.
I say that the team should continue regardless of WHO is on the mound
or WHO is at the plate.
Their reputation from those magical seasons is safe and secure.
"It's All Good" - Billy Magik
Joe in Philly
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mark R. Leaman"
Subject: Re: A bit of Stones; (Feels Like) Starting Over
I guarantee that I made no expressed or implied insult toward
you. If it appeared so, it was something I overlooked and did
not intend.
Lew:
DAMN you're being mellow today!
No, Jeff wrote that about something I said to him. I brought you into the reply regarding the stereo AQO. I'm not insulted, don't worry, not by you or Jeff or even Jim. I got another Stones remaster yesterday, and I'm not QUITE as happy with this one. Green Grass And High Tides, which (unfortunately) has the mono versions of some songs instead of the stereo. It all still sounds great, but having heard the German London label issue of Hot Rocks, I expected the stereo Satisfaction (for one) and it's not. And there's no telling about HR, because the US issue also had the mono Satsifaction (among others).
BTW, if you can get your hands on the London version of Hot Rocks disc one (they were sold seperately, and you can tell the difference because instead of the banner across the bottom which says "Digitally Remastered From Original Master Recordings" there's one on the top left which says "Digitally Remastered."), grab it! All of the songs sound as good as the new releases if not better. If you don't want it, I DO! I have only a burned copy right now. Disc two is just as good, but I have that one already.
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Hey, you're one of the three people left here who hasn't jumped on me...yet...
Yes, except that there things are called name recognition and brand loyalty
and goodwill. You get rid of a lot of baggage when you change the name of a
business, but you also give most of the positive things.
Lela:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think it would be a negative thing, and seen by many as exploitation. I suppose I'm more sensitive than others to this, because here in Myrtle Beach there are often five completely different "The Original Drifters" playing from time to time.
I didn't say that. I said dust bin.
Jeff:
Same thing, though.
I meant that all this stuff is old and in the past. They created it,
recorded it, sold it and closed the books. It cannot be recreated.
Um...didn't you catch the 2000 tour?
The band needs to move forward. It is what they've always done. Moving forward
is their legacy as you have said quite nicely ;-)
OK, so I want it all...I won't deny it...the old great stuff and some new good stuff. But one thing I do NOT want, and that's to sacrifice the old great stuff for the new good stuff. If they'd go ahead and release a definitive live collection (not to mention the rest of the studio tracks), then it would be like clearing the decks for whatever they wanted to do next...putting a close on the book as you say. I can't see them having closed the books if the last three releases have been a double CD best of, a remixed into stereo album from 37 years ago, and the stereo mix of the second album from 36 years ago.
If you love music, check us out on the
web: www.secondgenerationscds.com
Cheers ML
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:25:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mark R. Leaman"
Subject: Now I'm puzzled...
OK, I decided to take a look over at CDNow for the stereo AQO, and it's not listed as such...the only one is the usual one. BUT there's a projected new release (due out September 24th) called Maximum. It's listed as an import. Anyone know about THIS???
If you love music, check us out on the
web: www.secondgenerationscds.com
Cheers ML
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Mark R. Leaman"
Subject: Now I'm puzzled...
OK, I decided to take a look over at CDNow for the stereo AQO, and it's not listed as such...the only one is the usual one. BUT there's a projected new release (due out September 24th) called Maximum. It's listed as an import. Anyone know about THIS???
If you love music, check us out on the
web: www.secondgenerationscds.com
Cheers ML
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:47:37 -0600
From: Sigel James Civ 10 ABW/LGCW
Subject: WGFA at NYC
I was listening to WGFA from the NYC concert and thought about the deleted
"meet the new boss". I don't recall if this was discussed before, but who's
decision was it not to sing the closing line? Did the band discuss this
before going on, or did RD decide not to sing it on the spot? I thought it
was a good decision, considering the events, but I'm curious who thought not
to sing it. Does anyone know?
Shannon:
>Thank you again Jim for your kind words.
>(and God save the Who)
>Shannon (white boots) Daily
It was my pleasure; we devoted followers of The Who should stick together
despite the feuding and such. Especially those in the flock who wear white
boots and Union Jack minskirts!
Jethro:
>And I said, TO JEFF, "Be proud." Not directed to you in any way, and hard
to even find an insult there...
>what's wrong with Jeff being proud he feels close to you?
I'm terribly sorry for accusing you of this falsely. Even though Jeff never
said he was "proud" to feel close to me (YOU did with what I thought was a
snide tongue), I never thought that you were so very sincere in supporting
Jeff and me. How nice of you. You mean to say that your "I bet you do; be
proud" comment was really full scale support of Jeff and an endorsement of
me??? Gosh, I'm sorry for thinking otherwise Mark. Now, are you going to
try and sell me the Brooklyn Bridge too? Oh yeah, - "not directed to you in
any way..."??? Did I forget to say that in addition to being a hypocrite,
you are a chronic liar too?
>I didn't insult your "wife," imbecile, because I don't believe you have one
Found me out again; damn, nothing gets by you does it? All right, I'll
admit it. It cost me a small fortune to rent a model, fly to Hawaii, do a
beachfront ceremony, etc... And that dress she wore - Jeez! That cost a
bundle all by itself! And the pictures; I'm still in debt a year later. I
confess - I wanted to impress you, so I staged the whole thing. It's all
been a ruse. Do you have any idea how difficult it is passing a cardboard
cutout as my wife at parties? "Sorry, she doesn't talk much." But I can
let it all go now - I'm free!!! Thank you for forcing me to come clean
about this.
>Come looking for me and I'll crack your back over my knee like a rotten
branch.
Hahahahaaa... Okay, fair enough. I wouldn't want to lose an eye when you
scratch me or get hurt when you whack me with your purse. I fear the
Queensbury rules don't apply when you're menstruating and bitchy. Your
move...
Jim in Colo Springs
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:26:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jon Dawson
Subject: The Who at #6...above the Stones.
At www.deepdiscountcd.com, The Who come in at #6 in
the Top 25....above all of the Stones reissues.
Nice.
=====
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:06:09 -0400
From: "O'Neal, Kevin W."
Subject: To Album or Not to Album.....
>From: Joe Lewinski
>Subject: Re: To Album or Not to Album.....
>Kevin O'Neal wrote:
>>A new album now will be hammered by those that set reputation by sheer
>>repetitive vomiting of critical assholes.....I mean opinion.
>>Having tracks with John on them will ease some of the pain. But only
SOME!
>>Either way, it will be a head scratcher, and The Who's reputation will
again
>>be dragged through the mud.
>
>
>I say that the team should continue regardless of WHO is on the mound
>or WHO is at the plate.
>
>Their reputation from those magical seasons is safe and secure.
Ok then, where is the line drawn?
Are you advocating that when Roger or Pete dies, someone else steps in??
Is The Who, The Who when all 4 original team players are replaced?
When does The Who die?
And, I'm not so sure the magical seasons are safe if the overall reputation
of the band is tarnished.
*WE* know the reputation of the "magical seasons", but if the *overall*
reputation is fucked with (as it has been for the last 20+ years, with only
real hard work since 1996 bringing them back), than future generations won't
bother to go digging into the past and learn about The Who for themselves.
Very few people will bother.
Does that matter?
You tell me.
Kevin in VT
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:34:06 EDT
From: Keithjmoon70@aol.com
Subject: Re: To Album or Not to Album.....
In a message dated 9/9/02 3:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kevin.ONeal@vtmednet.org writes:
> if the *overall*
> reputation is fucked with (as it has been for the last 20+ years, with only
> real hard work since 1996 bringing them back), than future generations
> won't
> bother to go digging into the past and learn about The Who for themselves.
> Very few people will bother.
>
If they don't do something new right now, it won't matter anyway. The last 6
years will have no consumation. Then people will be right when they say that
they are just living in the past. There has been a proper build up to get
back a fan base to do something further. Then John died. But...
Pete and Roger have proved that they are more than half of the band. Their
backs were against the wall and they came through BIG. To be honest, I like
the 2002 tour better than the 2000 tour. It is more intense and Zak is far
superior. Roger is better, Pete is better, Pete wants to be there and Pino
sounds fabulous when you can hear him. On the Detroit Encore CD he blew me
away.
Jon in Mi.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:04:33 EDT
From: SicilianMother@aol.com
Subject: Questions...
How long has this list been active?
Has anyone on this list ever met Pete Townshend or Roger Daltrey and hung
out?
Is anyone here from out of the country? What countries?
Just curious.............
Johanna
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: thewho rocks
Subject: Whochips in Vegas
Repost from WhoBoots:
>For anyone going to see the Who next week in Vegas, they Hard Rock
Casino will be selling commemorative casino chips starting on Saturday.
The casino had plan on selling them with the original show scuduled in
Febuary. They are in $5, $25 and $100 denomination. I have heard that
when the Hard Rock have done commemorative casino chips sell out pretty
quickly.
=====
God bless the thunder. Love to The Who.
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Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:25:55 -0700
From: "An English Boy"
Subject: Re: Questions...
I've only met Moon.
AEB~
>From: SicilianMother@aol.com
>Reply-To: thewho@igtc.com
>To: thewho@igtc.com
>Subject: Questions...
>Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:04:33 EDT
>
>How long has this list been active?
>
>Has anyone on this list ever met Pete Townshend or Roger Daltrey and hung
>out?
>
>Is anyone here from out of the country? What countries?
>
>Just curious.............
>
>Johanna
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:02:32 -0400
From: "Jeff House"
Subject: WGFA at NYC
Jim said: "I don't recall if this was discussed before, but who's
decision was it not to sing the closing line? Did the band discuss this
before going on, or did RD decide not to sing it on the spot? I thought it
was a good decision, considering the events, but I'm curious who thought not
to sing it. Does anyone know?"
We discussed it, but had no facts to go on. We may have even taken a poll.
:-D
I think it was the right thing to do. That was not the right forum for
political cynicism.
I feel a political discussion brewing. OH NO! Run for your lives!!!!
:-D
Jeff
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:42:57 EDT
From: Keithjmoon70@aol.com
Subject: Re: Questions...
In a message dated 9/9/02 4:05:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SicilianMother@aol.com writes:
> Has anyone on this list ever met Pete Townshend or Roger Daltrey and hung
> out?
>
I know that AEB has hung out with Keith Moon (!)
I am still waiting to hear the details of this.
JK
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