Derick and myself along with a few others willl be in NYC for the ox shows on october 20/21///On saturday october 20 derick and myself will be meeting at the irish pub down the street from the BB King Club at 5-6pm for a pre-show beer-or ten pre-show beers///All is welcome to join us///The name of the pub escapes me but Derick will be posting another message later tonite with more information -scott