Jeff re: >Does "deluxe edition" = Astley? >Should I cancel my subscriptions to O&S and the newsgroup in anticipation of >the endless bitching and whining? If you prefer to read "last week's news" and engage in pointless debates then perhaps it might be a good idea. ;) The news about Shel at the helm was posted to O&S 5 days ago. (Thanks Jon). Maybe you scrolled by? "the whole world's out to lunch", Stoo