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Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #37
Uriah Heep (David Byron and Gary Thain)
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also had members who died
>From: TheWho-Digest-Owner@igtc.com (The Who Mailing List Digest)
>Reply-To: TheWho@igtc.com
>To: TheWho-Digest@igtc.com
>Subject: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #37
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 12:53:01 -0800
>
>The Who Mailing List Digest
> Friday, February 9 2001 Volume 08 : Number 037
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
> [alt.music.who] Obscure WAY mp3
> 30 Years video booklet
> Re: I'm new
> '68 bass technique
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: Pure Rock Theatre; an Orgy
> Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #35
> [alt.music.jethro-tul...] Ronnie Lane Promotional CD
> [alt.music.who] 2000 shows
> Re: FTP sites
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: I'm new
> some confusion ;-)
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: FTP sites
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: '68 bass technique
> Re: '68 bass technique & some Napster
> The Death Toll
> Re: The Death Toll
> Re: The Death Toll
> Re: The Death Toll
> Minidisc Trading
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:36:10 -0700
>From: Rich <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: [alt.music.who] Obscure WAY mp3
>
> Date: 01 Feb 2001 23:05:05 GMT
> Groups: alt.music.who
> From: mikeszzz@aol.com (MikeSZZZ)
> Org: AOL http://www.aol.com
>Subject: Obscure WAY mp3
> Id: <20010201180505.03662.00001772@nso-cl.aol.com>
>========
> I just posted 7 new mp3 relating to 'Who Are You' (well 2 non related * )
>and
>a brief commentary at my AUDIO site.
>
>Who Are You (Improv) - 21 October 1976: Maple Leaf Gardens,
>Toronto
>Who Are You (Demo and Interview) - unknown
>No Road Romance (Demo differ than 'Music Must Change' boot)
>March/April 1977 - Pete Townshend's Studio, Goring-On-Thames, Berkshire,
>England
>Keep Me Turning (Demo) Feb 1977 - Olympic Studios,
>Barnes, Richmond, and Eel Pie Studios, London *
>Tommy's Holiday Camp (Life with the Moons) 15 December 1977: Gaumont
>State,
>Kilburn, London, England
>I Saw Her Standing There (Rehearsal jam) Ramport Studios, Battersea,
>London 1978
>
>Extra:
>I'm Free - 1 December 1975: Kemper Arena, Kansas City, MO *
>
>Upcoming later on at my site....
>
>Dayton 1971, Forest Hills 1971
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mike (Sharkbait)
>http://members.nbci.com/deafjob/thewho.htm
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:16:30 -0500
>From: "Brian Cady" <cadyb@home.com>
>Subject: 30 Years video booklet
>
>For all the people who've been requesting it, I've posted the booklet that
>came with the original video release for "30 Years Of Maximum R&B" that was
>left out of the DVD.
>
>Just go to the index for my liner notes to The Who's albums at:
>http://www.thewho.net/linernotes/
>
>and click on the booklet cover to the right.
>
>- -Brian in Atlanta
> The Who This Month!
> Go to: http://members.home.net/cadyb/who.htm
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:29:19 +0100
>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Ciggaar <ciggaar@warande.net>
>Subject: Re: I'm new
>
>At 22:35 7-2-01 -0500, Nate wrote:
> >I wish I could write and respond quicker,but my job is a pain in my ass!
>I
> >work weird times. Jeez this is only my second or third post and the only
> >thing that people responded to was my Jess paragraph! I got like 40
> >e-mails asking me about her! Hmmmmmm....Every question was asked by a guy
> >too. Anyway enough talking about Jess until she is able to respond to
>some
> >of this stuff! Hehehe the poor girl is going to open her mailbox and see
> >thousands of e-mails with the subject:Heidi Klum. I know I started,but
> >let's talk some Who!
>
>Hihihi... Funny. :-) But predictable. :-) That's the internet... (and we're
>all human, at least most of us, and I must admit, if you look like Heidi
>Klum... daaaahhhh)
>
>Anyway, welcome to the camp.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bjorn (with the very distinctive DUTCH look) ;-)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:31:59 -0500 (EST)
>From: Jeff House <jjthandmeh@juno.com>
>Subject: '68 bass technique
>
>I have always wondered where the sounds come from on some of the live
>recordings I've heard from the late '60s. It sounds like there are 3
>guitar
>lines in spots.
>
>This morning I was listeneng to MLs "Stages". I think "Little Billy" and
>"Relax" come from Filmore '68. The 3 guitar lines are particularly
>pronounced on "Little Billy" where I hear all 3 through the entire song.
>"Relax" has them in sections. I hear rhythm/lead (Pete), a melodic bass
>(John), and a rhythmic bass (I presume it is John too).
>
>Was John using a technique that produced two bass lines then? Possibly the
>rhythm with thumb and melody with fingers.
>
>Would anyone care to tell me I am hearing things in my senility and
>burnout?
>I often get the feeling listening to the Moon-era live stuff that there are
>more than three instruments.
>
>Jeff
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:39:44 -0500
>From: "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
> > This morning I was listeneng to MLs "Stages". I think "Little Billy"
>and
> > "Relax" come from Filmore '68.
>
>Jeff:
>
>They do indeed.
>
> > I often get the feeling listening to the Moon-era live stuff that there
>are
> > more than three instruments.
>
>That's the genius of the live Who.
>
>
>"You guys get to work for the people who put us in office...I'll be at the
>Gym."
> Buzz "Duh-Bya" Lightyear
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:54:06 -0500
>From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
>Subject: Re: Pure Rock Theatre; an Orgy
>
> > > This one's called ROULETTE ROCK & the back cover says "Soundboard
> > > 1969/70."
> > Scott:
> >
> > This one has also been released as Pure Rock Theatre.
>
>
>I have PURE ROCK THEATER; ROULETTE ROCK might contain some tracks
>from PURE ROCK THEATER, but much of it is different.
>
>- - SCHRADE in Akron
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:13:45 -0500
>From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
>Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #35
>
> > Scott,
> >
> > Sounds to me that you just described "Pure Rock
> > Theatre" which was originally put out on the Hiwatt
> > label, a spinoff of Scorpio.
>
>Like I told Mark, I think this one is a bit different.
>
> > Some of the problems you mentioned actually sound to
> > me to be either amp related or guitar related. There
> > are some sloppy moments, but overall not bad. I'll
> > take any quality recorded livve material I can get my
> > hands on from that era.
>
>I know what you mean. Sometimes Pete punishes his guitars so much,
>they just give out. Bam! They're dead. Pete's pissed. This usually
>seems
>to happen during "Heaven & Hell" or "Young Man Blues." Or on "Sparks."
>
>Isn't it on PURE ROCK THEATER where you can hear Pete verbally
>abusing poor Bobby Pridden after "Heaven & Hell" because the guitar keeps
>crapping out?
>
>And I have a version of "Young Man Blues" where OX & Moonie get to do
>a little 'rhythm section' solo in the middle of the song while Pete gets a
>fresh
>guitar to start the whole process all over again.
>
> > The Young Man Blues here is supposedly from the Ottawa
> > show, 15 Oct 1969. Makes you wonder just how much of
> > the "destroyed" tapes from this tour actually exist.
>
>Yeah, I wonder the same.
>
>
>- - SCHRADE in Akron
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:12:14 -0700
>From: Rich <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: [alt.music.jethro-tul...] Ronnie Lane Promotional CD
>
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:15:26 -0000
> Groups: alt.music.jethro-tull,alt.music.who,alt.rock-n-roll.stones,rec.m
> usic.folk,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s
> From: "Martin Payne" <martin.payne2@virgin.net>
> Org: Virgin Net Usenet Service
>Subject: Ronnie Lane Promotional CD
> Id: <72Ac6.589$YT3.17896@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>
>========
>Room for Ravers has four copies of the promotional CD for Live in Austin.
>For details of how to obtain one check out the Room for Ravers What's New
>Section.
>
>http://www.makingtime.co.uk/rfr
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:41:34 -0700
>From: Rich <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: [alt.music.who] 2000 shows
>
> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:44:56 -0000
> Groups: alt.music.who
> From: "stm" <stm@tinyonline.co.uk>
>Subject: 2000 shows
> Id: <3a8062af_2@news2.vip.uk.com>
>========
>Folks!
>
>Nearly got the complete tour on CD....can anyone help me with:
>
>14 Aug Hollywood Bowl
>16 Aug Irvine
>17 Aug San Diego
>19 Aug George
>26 Sep Tampa (full version with the encore!)
>3 Oct MSG
>3 Nov Glasgow
>5 Nov Glasgow
>10 Nov Sheffield
>
>I've got the rest...so anyone able to trade for these?
>
>Stu Martin
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:23:55 -0500
>From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
>Subject: Re: FTP sites
>
> > Swansea 1976 - Love it.
> > Amsterdam 69 - A great concert, Won't Get Fooled Again has a
>glitch/false
> > start which should be editied out before burning.
>
>You mean WGFA from the Swansea show, not Amsterdam.
>
> > Marquee Club 1964 - the band I was in played as well,
>
>Excuse me? Your band played that night? Pardon me?
>
> > but The who has a
> > much better drummer at that point in time - a great historical document
>for
> > all Who Heads - for sure.
>
>I still maintain this is from 1963 & is Doug Sandom on drums.
>
> > Would I play it at a public party? no.
>
>"Long Tall Sally" might scare some of the guests away!
>
>
>- - SCHRADE in Akron
> "We Got the Blimp!"
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:40:13 -0500
>From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
> > Was John using a technique that produced two bass lines then? Possibly
>the
> > rhythm with thumb and melody with fingers.
>
>OX usually plays the melodic lines with his fingers:
>
> doo-do-loo doo-do-loo doo-do-loo doo-do-loo
>
>And the rhythm parts, he'll play with a pick:
>
> chuck-a-chuck chuck chuck cuck-a-chuck chuck chuck
>
>Just another aspect of The WHO's variance & depth of sound.
>
>
>- - SCHRADE in Akron
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:45:34 -0500
>From: Jeff House <jjthandmeh@juno.com>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
>Scott Schrade: "OX usually plays the melodic lines with his fingers:
> doo-do-loo doo-do-loo doo-do-loo doo-do-loo
>And the rhythm parts, he'll play with a pick:
> chuck-a-chuck chuck chuck cuck-a-chuck chuck chuck"
>
>Scott, Very nice text effect :-)
>
>The real question I had was how does he do both the 'doo' and 'chuck' at
>the same time as on "Little Billy" Filmore '68? If he is using pick AND
>fingers how is he holding the pick? All the photos I have seen of John
>(and the real thing) I had the impression that he only has two hands and
>ten fingers.
>
>Do you hear the simultaneous doo-chuck? Are my ears damaged?
>
>Jeff
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:11:33 -0500 (EST)
>From: Andreas J Athans <ajathans@alberti.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
>SOmetimes when bass players use a pick (and I have heard this first hand
>in my band), the "chugging" sound makes you think there are two things
>being played at once when it's still only one line.
>
>Drew
>
>Andreas J. Athans
>UNH Chemistry Dept.
>Parsons Hall #209
>University of New Hampshire
>Durham,NH 03824
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 02:30:27 -0000
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: I'm new
>
> >Jeez this is only my second or third post and the
> >>only thing that people responded to was my Jess paragraph! I got like 40
> >>e-mails asking me about her! Hmmmmmm....Every question was asked by a
>guy
> >>too.
>
>They all wanted her phone number, right? ;)
>
>keets
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:42:24 -0700
>From: Rich <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: some confusion ;-)
>
>Guys, I just forwarded that message from the alt.music.who newsgroup
><news://alt.music.who>.
>
>I'm not the one that has all of 2000 minus a few shows. Please paste
>in the email address in the From: line of the post that I forwarded to
>contact the individual in question.
>
>I skim that newsgroup and occasionally forward an interesting message
>from there to this list, I hope noone on the list minds that.
>- --
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 02:43:12 -0000
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
> >All the photos I have seen of John (and the real thing) I had the
> >impression that he only has two hands and ten fingers.
> >
> >Do you hear the simultaneous doo-chuck? Are my ears damaged?
>
>JAE does play with both hands. I haven't heard the recording in question,
>but folks who have seen him do it say he sounds about the same with the
>left
>hand as he does with both. Could it be melody with the left and rhythm
>with
>the right?
>
>keets
>
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:44:55 -0700
>From: Rich <legalize@xmission.com>
>Subject: Re: FTP sites
>
>In article <003501c09236$fba5a4c0$6300a8c0@akrobiz.com>,
> "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com> writes:
>
> > > Marquee Club 1964 - the band I was in played as well,
> >
> > Excuse me? Your band played that night? Pardon me?
>
>I think he means that the band, of which he was a member in some
>unknown year, played just as good as The Who at the Marquee club in 1964.
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:55:26 -0500
>From: Jeff House <jjthandmeh@juno.com>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
>keets "JAE does play with both hands. I haven't heard the recording in
>question, but folks who have seen him do it say he sounds about the same
>with the left hand as he does with both. Could it be melody with the
>left and rhythm with the right?"
>
>Dunno. Would that be similar to the technique that Hendrix and Stevie Ray
>Vaughan used? I have seen and heard them play rhythm and melody at the
>same time.
>
>I know I should just leave it at "magic", but I am analytical. What can
>I say?
>
>Jeff
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:15:30 -0500 (EST)
>From: Andreas J Athans <ajathans@alberti.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique
>
>He could also be playing an open string as a drone while playing the
>melody on other strings. It's similar to how you'd do it on guitar.
>
>Drew
>
>Andreas J. Athans
>UNH Chemistry Dept.
>Parsons Hall #209
>University of New Hampshire
>Durham,NH 03824
>
>On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Jeff House wrote:
>
> > keets "JAE does play with both hands. I haven't heard the recording in
> > question, but folks who have seen him do it say he sounds about the same
> > with the left hand as he does with both. Could it be melody with the
> > left and rhythm with the right?"
> >
> > Dunno. Would that be similar to the technique that Hendrix and Stevie
>Ray
> > Vaughan used? I have seen and heard them play rhythm and melody at the
> > same time.
> >
> > I know I should just leave it at "magic", but I am analytical. What can
> > I say?
> >
> > Jeff
> >
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:30:16 -0500
>From: Jeff House <jjthandmeh@juno.com>
>Subject: Re: '68 bass technique & some Napster
>
>If he tapped the open string (on top) with his thumb while using is
>fingers on the bottom three, would that produce the desired dual sound?
>
>Ladies, can you imagine what other magical things the Ox can do with his
>hands? :-)
>
>Jeff
>
>PS. Yeah, I am camped out here online tonight. I found most of the RAH
>show (I want "Gettin in Tune" and "So Sad") on Napster as well as "Naked
>Eye" from SBE 12/22/99. Downloads are chugging away. If you type The
>Who in artists and RAH in title, most of the show will come up. I keep
>getting 'transfer errors' :-(
>
>On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:15:30 -0500 (EST) Andreas J Athans
><ajathans@alberti.unh.edu> writes:
> > He could also be playing an open string as a drone while playing the
> > melody on other strings. It's similar to how you'd do it on guitar.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > Andreas J. Athans
> > UNH Chemistry Dept.
> > Parsons Hall #209
> > University of New Hampshire
> > Durham,NH 03824
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Jeff House wrote:
> >
> > > keets "JAE does play with both hands. I haven't heard the
> > recording in
> > > question, but folks who have seen him do it say he sounds about
> > the same
> > > with the left hand as he does with both. Could it be melody with
> > the
> > > left and rhythm with the right?"
> > >
> > > Dunno. Would that be similar to the technique that Hendrix
> > and Stevie Ray
> > > Vaughan used? I have seen and heard them play rhythm and melody
> > at the
> > > same time.
> > >
> > > I know I should just leave it at "magic", but I am analytical.
> > What can
> > > I say?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> >
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:47:06 -0500
>From: "O'Neal, Kevin W." <Kevin.ONeal@vtmednet.org>
>Subject: The Death Toll
>
>Being a Soc. major, I find it bizarre how many popular bands and artists
>have either died, or had a member of their group die "before their time".
>I'm putting a list together, and may do a study.
>Here's just the tip of the Iceberg. But what a mighty tip it is.
>
>The Who
>The Beatles
>The Rolling Stones
>Led Zeppelin
>The Doors
>Jimmy Hendrix
>Janice Joplin
>Elvis
>The Grateful Dead
>Chicago
>The Alman Brothers
>Nirvana
>Metallica
>Blind Melon
>Stevie Ray Vaughn
>Lynard Skinard
>
>Please add on (no, I don't mean go out and kill someone).
>Yeah, I may have mispelled one or two. But, I got the most important one
>right!
>
>Kevin in VT
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:22:36 -0000
>From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: The Death Toll
>
>There's a Christian website somewhere that has a giant list of musicians
>and
>how they've died. I think they're trying to prove it's a sinful lifestyle
>and all musicians die early from their sin, but instead, what sticks out is
>that lots of musicians die in transportation accidents. You'd figure
>that's
>a direct result of touring.
>
>keets
>
>
> >Being a Soc. major, I find it bizarre how many popular bands and artists
> >have either died, or had a member of their group die "before their time".
> >I'm putting a list together, and may do a study.
> >Here's just the tip of the Iceberg. But what a mighty tip it is.
> >
> >The Who
> >The Beatles
> >The Rolling Stones
> >Led Zeppelin
> >The Doors
> >Jimmy Hendrix
> >Janice Joplin
> >Elvis
> >The Grateful Dead
> >Chicago
> >The Alman Brothers
> >Nirvana
> >Metallica
> >Blind Melon
> >Stevie Ray Vaughn
> >Lynard Skinard
> >
> >Please add on (no, I don't mean go out and kill someone).
> >Yeah, I may have mispelled one or two. But, I got the most important one
> >right!
>
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>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:42:56 -0000
>From: "Jeremy Craine" <jcraine@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: The Death Toll
>
> >>The Who
> >>The Beatles
> >>The Rolling Stones
> >>Led Zeppelin
> >>The Doors
> >>Jimmy Hendrix
> >>Janice Joplin
> >>Elvis
> >>The Grateful Dead
> >>Chicago
> >>The Alman Brothers
> >>Nirvana
> >>Metallica
> >>Blind Melon
> >>Stevie Ray Vaughn
> >>Lynard Skinard
> >>
>Queen
>Thin Lizzy
>Rainbow
>David Bowie (if you consider Mick Ronson)
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>
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:38:22 -0600 (CST)
>From: Space_Whokee@webtv.net (Magic Alex)
>Subject: Re: The Death Toll
>
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>The Crickets
>Richie Valenz
>The Big Bopper
>No Doubt (lead singer in the eighties)
>Badfinger
>
>~Alex (no I'm not dead, hehe)~
>
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>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:51:55 -0800 (PST)
>From: Jeff Schotland <yrascals@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Minidisc Trading
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>Hello I'm looking for someone to do some trading
>of bootlegs on minidisc of Who and PT stuff.
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>If interested please email me!
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>Jeff
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