Re: >if u look closely i think they are nike shoes I didn't mean the sneakers, I meant the huge kick ass heavy black shoes. :-) (which prevent Pete from jumping through the ceiling) Cheers, Bjorn Ciggaar http://www.warande.net/~ciggaar Yeah, yeah! This is the Dutch contingent again? "After Ze Fire", I hear the accent. I can't see you there - Pete Townshend (23-12-1999, Shepherds Bush Empire)