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Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #38
Does anyone know what cities the Who are going to play in July-August,\
any speculators? -Aaron
By the way I have had the great fortune of meeting all three surviving
Who members. They all happen to be great stories. Please e-mail me if
you care to hear them. A side note, Townshend was, as expected, the
coolest of them all!
On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
>
> The Who Mailing List Digest
> Thursday, February 13 1997 Volume 04 : Number 038
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #37
> LASER DISK OF ISLE OF WIGHT
> get with the 90's people
> The Who
> Casting Moon
> Responce to: Frank & the Ox (And another plea for info.)
> [none]
> Re: Young people and the Who
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:55:16 -0600 (CST)
> From: Alan McKendree <amck@eden.com>
> Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #37
>
> On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:03:46 EDT
> > From: "Frank S. Corotto" <fcorotto@nugget.ngc.peachnet.edu>
> > Subject: young people have not heard of the Who
> >
> > Hi. I teach Biology at North Georgia College and today I was helping
> > a student choose classes for next quarter. He looked at my wall
> > where I have a picture of Pete windmilling and asked "Who are the
> > Who?" Is it any wonder they couldn't sell out in Las Vegas?
>
> This is unfortunate, but I think the lack of sellouts on the last tour
> was due more to poor promotion than ignorance on the part of the
> younger generation. The $150 ticket prices in Las Vegas were a
> contributing factor there, too.
>
> Personally, I would be thrilled to have a college student ask me "Who
> are the Who?" I have literally trembled with excitement at getting to
> introduce someone to the music, assuming they were interested.
> Actually, I usually go the other way and take it slow it to be sure
> I'm not boring the other person.
>
> > It's Pete's fault they are being forgotten.
>
> Bullshit. It's due to Pete (with essential contributions from many
> others) that they're remembered at all. See below.
>
> They need a real, new
> > album and a lot of hard work or their legacy will be lost with the
> > newer generations.
>
> I can't imagine what goes on in people's minds to make them say
> something like this. You mean all they have to do is put out ONE more
> "real, new album" and do "a lot of hard work", and suddenly THEN
> they'll be big, THEN their legacy will be remembered and immortal?
> Crap. In 5.3 years someone else will be saying EXACTLY the same
> thing: "Sure they were big back in 1997, but they better get their
> butts in gear and put out something new or they'll be forgotten."
>
> Please. The only thing putting out a new album will do is (hopefully)
> give the world some more great music. The only thing a tour would do
> is allow more people to see them perform again (admittedly, a benefit
> to both sides of the stage). But to claim that this is somehow
> necessary to avoid "losing their legacy" is just transparently false.
> The human race is going to go on for a long, long time and I venture
> to say that one more album will not determine whether or not The Who's
> music is going to live in its memory.
>
> Sadly, it's true that in the future there will be people who love the
> music but will not have the experience of seeing them perform, just as
> I was born too late to see them perform during what many older fans
> say was their peak, 1965-'68, but there's nothing to be done about
> that.
>
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:20:35 -0500 (EST)
> > From: LARSPUMA@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #36
> >
> > I do not think that enough young people appreciate the great music that the
> > Who really performs.
>
> Why should you care? For that matter, I do not think that enough old
> people appreciate it. On the other hand, the fewer people who
> appreciate it, the easier it is for me to get front-row tickets.
>
> FWIW, I saw a girl in her early 20s last night with a Who jacket on.
> I asked her if she just found the jacket or was a Who fan. Turns out
> she traveled to San Jose (from Austin) last October for Quad just like
> I did.
>
> In all seriousness music from the late 60's up to the
> > late 70's was really the greatest time for music.
>
> Yeah. Anyone born after 1975 should just have their ears taped shut,
> opened only to listen to The Who or listen to us old farts (over 40)
> talk about the good ol'days. (:-), BTW). (Is there such a thing as a
> young fart...?)
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:59:01 -0500 (EST)
> > From: BABAORILEY@delphi.com
> > Subject: The Who
> >
> > I don't understand you people. The Who are and have been defunct as a group
> > for about 15 years now. How can you all still support something as dead in
> > the water as this band is ? They have done nothing new for us, and just
> > keep repeating what they have put out in the past. Re-masters just to get
> > your money TWICE! [blah, blah deleted]
>
> I am treating this post as a "troll" (deliberate trap set to start
> flame wars, for those unfamiliar with the term), and as such best
> ignored. The proposition that it might be serious is too bogus to
> contemplate.
>
> - --
> Alan McKendree amck@eden.com 512-478-9900 x206
> Adhesive Media, 101 W. 6th St., Ste. 210, Austin, TX 78701
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:39:32 -0800
> From: Beau McCrury <Beau.McCrury@ucop.edu>
> Subject: LASER DISK OF ISLE OF WIGHT
>
> Hello everyone, my name is Beau and this is my first
> posting to the list. I've been monitoring the list for
> about six months now and enjoy it very much. Being that I'm
> new to this whole internet thing I didn't want to jump in
> like I knew what I was doing. Anyway, being that I am new
> please feel free to send suggestions/ criticisms my way.
>
> I thought this was a particularly good time to start
> contributing to this list since the posting last week or
> so criticizing you guys on your posts. Well I'll stand up
> for ya! Given some posts are better than others but it
> sure is grand to know that there are people out there that
> are a little whoie too.
>
> Now to the good stuff. I recently rented a laser disk
> copy of 'The Who Live At The Isle of Wight Festival 1970'.
> Vital signs are 1996 Pulsar Productions Inc., Warner Music
> Vision, AMLY-8086 if anyone is so inclined. It runs for
> about 85 minutes of good quality video and sound. The
> first side has various singles performed, Heaven And Hell,
> Water, Young Man Blues etc. and side two has most of
> Tommy. Being that I understand our boys didn't start there
> set until 2 am and not finish until around 4:30 this disk
> is obviously incomplete. I can't be sure of the order of
> the song list but is seems to me that the way the disk is
> arranged the fist and last part of the concert is on side
> one thus leaving side two for the Tommy songs. Overall I
> thought it was excellent! One little thing is that it
> has some kind of asian subtitling, either Chinese or
> perhabs Japanese, not in every place, just when they have
> dialog between songs and for there introduction at the
> beginning.
>
> The most charming/ silly part of the whole disk was at the
> very end. Here is Keith in the area of the concert that
> looks like where the RV's and buses of the people who were
> working the concert. He's got a rubber clown mask with a
> big nose that goes down over his cheeks, exposing his lips
> and jaw and on his head a rubber axe with blood looking
> like it's part way into his skull. His cheeks are drawn in
> and lips puckered out like a fish face and of course a
> brandy in one hand. And during all of this a recording of
> Rog singing 'Tommy can you hear me...' God I miss Keith,
> what a sweety. A weird sweety but those are the best kind.
>
> I don't know what availability is like of this footage on
> tape but do look for it. It's worth it!
>
> By for now. You guys are great!
>
> Beau.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:01:04 -0800
> From: Cain@webtv.net (K Kane)
> Subject: get with the 90's people
>
> Baba, re:
> Give up...get with the 90's people..
>
> I hear this phrase a lot, and yet no-one has ever quite explained to me
> what it meant. Does it mean that we institute a sort of cultural
> euthenasia? Or that we dismiss the music of the past in order to
> accomodate the music of the present? As far as I'm concerned, whatever
> point you might have made about the Who's exploitation of their past is
> undermined by three things: 1. The Who are still a vital live unit,
> playing the most challenging work (Quadrophenia) of their career; 2. The
> reissued CD's are for the most part a great improvement over the
> insultingly bad CD reissues of the 80's; 3. Idiotic, meaningless
> statements like "get with the 90's people" confuse your point.
>
> I, for one, would like to know how dismissing the Who would somehow make
> me better attuned to "the 90's". Until then, I think I'm going to
> listen to the superb "Sell Out" reissue and reminisce about the
> wonderful experience of seeing "Quadrophenia" on stage for the first
> time.
>
> Brian V., who at 25, is living very much in the 90's
> "This song is called 'It's Alright Ma, I'm Only Bleeding, Ho Ho Ho'"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:45:38 -0500
> From: "KATHLEEN L. PASQUALE" <105612.1051@compuserve.com>
> Subject: The Who
>
> First I would like to take care of the important issue.
>
> Jennifer asked about touring info. Just stay tuned to the list and you'll
> get all the ticket info you need. Ken Guilford who sent the original post
> will keep everyone updated as well as others who are good at digging up
> that info.
>
> My next comments are for "BABA".
>
> First; I don't know how you can claim to be a fan. Anyone who truly
> follows knows that the 1979 tragedy happened not at MSG but at Riverfront
> Stadium in Cinncinnati and to say that the Band didn't give a shit is just
> completely wrong. They were completely torn up about the incident and if
> you were around then and read or saw any of the interviews you would know
> that.
>
> And what the hell does "get with the 90's" mean. Just because Hendrix,
> Joplin, Led Zepp (I could go on but won't) haven't done anything new I
> should stop listening and appreciating their contribution. We are talking
> about true legends here who have made a huge contribution to the 90's music
> scene. If you don't believe me just go look up an interview of Eddie
> Veder's and see what he has to say about who influenced him.
>
> Quad was always one of their most challanging albums to perform and because
> of that the four of them couldn't perform it live to the satisfaction of
> the group. Them coming back with this in the way they did was a god send
> for many of us. Quad being one of my favorites and only getting to hear
> 5:15 & LROM at other concerts I thought it was great to see performed
> complete.
>
> And as far as your comment about them being old farts. Well I hate to tell
> you honey; WE ARE ALL GETTING OLDER & WE ALL AIN'T WHAT WE USE TO
> BE....EVEN YOU!!!!!!!!!!! I can tell you from experience that THE WHO
> are doing a whole lot better than two other ancient british bands. The one
> keeps putting out any new crap they can & tour even though the lead singer
> hasn't been able to sing a note since the early 80's and the lead guitarist
> looks like he should be taking a dirt nap. The other one grinds out 2
> songs with left over tape from a dead man and call that new; talk about
> money hungry.
>
> Well; you have your opinions and I have mine. Hope I haven't offended
> anyone. If I have I'm sure I'll read about it.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 97 15:24:55 EST
> From: <Elaine.Crann@analog.com> (Elaine Crann)
> Subject: Casting Moon
>
> To Henry Gambill and whomever else:
>
> My husband has volunteered to play Keith Moon. He plays the drums and says
> he'll take acting lessons. He even said he would do it for free and pay
> his own expenses. He feels he is Keith's (the drummer and the person)
> biggest fan. He and his bandmates play every weekend and he bases all his
> "work/style" on that of Keith. I know he can act as crazy as Keith did so
> that wouldn't be a problem either.
>
> Elaine
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:03:11 -0500
> From: jennifer fox <jfox@mail.slc.edu>
> Subject: Responce to: Frank & the Ox (And another plea for info.)
>
> First in response to Frank, I'm a nineteen year old college student and
> love the Who-so don't despair, many people of my generation love the Who and
> do consider them to be what they truly are-the greatest rock band that ever was.
> As for the Ox's attack against the Who, I'd like to ask 1.)Why the hell
> are you apart of this mailing list if you feel that way; and 2.)I challenge
> you to present anything better musically in the rock genre than what the Who
> has done! In my opinion, why should I listen to the cheap imitation, rip off
> garbage that is being generated today, when I can go straight to the source
> and listen to the truly great stuff? I think you'd better question your
> own judgement as opposed to the rest of us.
> As for their up coming tour, again I'd like to remind those who are in
> the know to please remember (if you haven't already) tell me the best way to
> find out when tickets go on sale. Being only nineteen, I've never had the
> privilage of seeing them live, and would be immensely disappointed if I
> missed my chance.
>
> Jennifer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:22:48 -0500
> From: jennifer fox <jfox@mail.slc.edu>
> Subject: [none]
>
> I just remembered that I'd also wanted to ask anyone if they knew of a
> place or good source where I might find some Who posters (I go to Sarah
> Lawrence College, and therefore am in close proximity to New York City).
> Also, does anyone know if the Who fanzine "Generations" is still in
> existence, and if so, do you know how I might go about getting a subscription.
>
> JEnnifer Fox
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:18:28 -0500
> From: salamander@MADNET.COM
> Subject: Re: Young people and the Who
>
> I was pretty surprised to see all the messages about there not being
> enough young Who fans, considering how nasty many people on this list
> (not to mention the newsgroup, Who areas on major online services, etc.)
> are to almost anyone under 21. Where do you champions of the youthful
> Who fan hide when these folks come crawling out of the woodwork? I doubt
> that a change in attitude would increase the number of teenaged Who fans
> out there, but it what few there are make themselves known if they were
> treated a little nicer. Not everyone can be a flinty-eyed ice princess
> like me, after all. :)
>
>
> -Yellow "Insert favorite line from 'My Generation' here" Ledbetter
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> ------------------------------
>
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