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Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #192
- Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #192
- From: MIchael Ippolito <TheOx@worldnet.att.net>
- Date: Sun, 06 Jan 1980 17:50:17 -0500
The Who Mailing List Digest wrote:
>
> The Who Mailing List Digest
> Thursday, July 31 1997Volume 04 : Number 192
>
> In this issue:
>
> Full of something, anyway
> Re: Holmdel (PNC Arts Center) 8/3 show
> Raleigh Preshow !!!!!
> Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #191
> concert stuff
> The Who in Toronto
> GET THOSE GUEST BOOK ENTRIES IN!
> FACE DANCES: REVIEWED ON THE SONICS MUSIC SITE
> oh yeah!
> Tanglewood Music Shed
> Hartford pre-show
> Gar Glitter vs PJ Proby
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:18:14 -0400
> From: "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net>
> Subject: Full of something, anyway
>
> > >After reading BEHIND BLUE EYES I have deduced that PT is
> > >full of himself and full of SHIT! I still love his music
> > >and nothing can change that.
> >
> > You might want to at least investigate the possibility that it is
> > Giuliano who is full of shit.
>
> Guys, guys...of course Pete is full of shit (he'd be the first to admit
> it, most likely), and so is Giuliano. Pete is so contradictory even when
> his thoughts are accurately reported that he must be full of it. After
> all, he wrote this: "I see myself on TV/I'm a faker/A paper clown..." &
> "It must be clear to all my friends that I'm truly a liar..." And then
> there's Cry If You Want...
> And the G man shows such a lack of knowledge about The Who that it's
> obvious he's a Rock writer for the money, not for a passion of
> music...and that means he's full of it too.
> So...you're both right.
> In the meantime, THIS music lover is going to see the incredible Blues
> guitarist Tinsley Ellis tonight (for the 8th time, maybe)...and advise
> any who come across him in your home town to do the same.
>
> - --
>
> Cheers ML
>
> "It's more than a looking back...it's a bringing up to date.
> Quadrophenia is about where we're all at today...maybe you too,
> I don't know..."
> Pete Townshend
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:40:20 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Quadrophe@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Holmdel (PNC Arts Center) 8/3 show
>
> My "I've gotta ticket for you--guaranteed" source is now having problems. If
> anyone has info on where I can get one ticket, e-mail me at
> Quadrophe@aol.com.
> Thanks.
>
> Bruce
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:47:20 -0400
> From: D & G Ramey <rameys@erols.com>
> Subject: Raleigh Preshow !!!!!
>
> The following is forwarded to you folks with permission...
>
>
> Raleigh Preshow Gathering - Sun. August 10 / Walnut Creek Amp.
>
> We will meet at East Village Grill - 1 Dixie Trail. This is at the
> corner of Hillsborough St. and Dixie Tr. Under 18 is OK.
> Hillsborough
> St. is a major Raleigh street so it is easy to find. You can get to
> Hillsborough St. off the loop road around Raleigh I-440 (known locally
> as the beltline.) When you get off I-440 head into town and Dixie Tr.
> is on your left . This is near the NC State campus which also is
> on Hillsborough St. There is a nice outdoor deck which we can use if
> it
> is not too hot. Food and a good selection of beer will be available.
> The phone number for East Village is (919) 821-9985 in case you get
> lost.
> You can show up from 4 PM on - the show starts at 7:30. I will bring
> maps showing how to get to Walnut Creek.
>
> If you miss the preshow gathering here is how to get to the show:
> Walnut Creek Ampitheather is just off I-40 on the southeast side of
> Raleigh.
> You can get there from several exits. Most people exit off I-40 onto
> Rock Quarry Rd. since it is on that road. There are large brown signs
> that you can't miss telling you which exit to take to get to Walnut
> Creek.
> If you get lost most people should know how to get there or at least
> how
> to get to I-40. If you are coming in on I-40 just stay on it. From
> the north take I-440 east to I-40 east.
>
> There is also an exhibit on Rock and Roll influencing culture at the NC
> Museum of Art on Blue Ridge Rd. in west Raleigh. The museum is free
> and
> it is a great museum if you are looking for something to do while in
> town.
>
> Any questions or comments please let me know:
>
> Kevin McGowan mcgowan1@niehs.nih.gov
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:13:53 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Max617@aol.com
> Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V4 #191
>
> to kevin o'brien:
>
> great comment about that lousy author!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:13:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jennifer Lee Davies <jen@nt.net>
> Subject: concert stuff
>
> >4. Roger wearing no underwear
>
> Oh? And how could you tell?
> And Pete on IOW isn't either? Hm... I suppose it leaves them
> feeling kinda... free....
>
> Brad M wrote:
> >Simon SANG "extra, extra", but you dont see him until the swimming pool scene
> >in Welcome.
>
> In the Tommy movie?!
>
> JenniferD
> My Guitar __ _____ http://www.nt.net/~jen/
> \---\____________/ - \
> :::=====================I | "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding
> /---/ \__ - ____/ through the night..." -The Python
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:12:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jennifer Lee Davies <jen@nt.net>
> Subject: The Who in Toronto
>
> Here's my 3-day Who trip!
>
> JULY 28
>
> We left my doorstep at about 12:40 pm. It was a long, dull ride to
> North Bay - dull, that is, except for trying to figure out what surprise my
> dad had in store for me there.
> Turned out that my dad had planned to take me on the nightly boat
> cruise around Lake Nipissing, on the Chief Commanda II! It was a lovely
> ride. (I love the water - being in it or on it, doesn't matter.)
>
> JULY 29
>
> The day had arrived! We techinically got up at 7 am, when the desk
> sent us our wake-up, but I hadn't slept much at all. (Embarassingly, my
> lack of Zs was not due to excitement - I've never been able to sleep in hotels!)
> We left for the Big Smoke (Toronto) at 8:30.
> Now the good part.
> I had a great time at the Zum Rhein (once we found it)! En route
> (the short way), we ran into who we later realized was a Who roadie - big
> guy with 2 earrings and tattoos - who was clearing out an area. We thought
> later that the Who had probably arrived, and were going to be let into the
> Amphitheatre. If we'd thought of that sooner, we would've hung around and
> watched! We went the long way, got lost once, but did finally enter the
> shade of the Zum Rhein.
> The first person we ran into the John Rhein. (Ask him about his
> interesting drinking companion at Montreal.) He told us some great stories.
> I wish you'd stuck around, John - I would've liked to get you in a picture!
> It was wonderful to meet Tom Hand and hecktow, and someone else,
> too, whose name I missed. (Sorry!) It was a pleasure to meet all the
> non-listers who were dragged along, too!
> It was also great to see Stoo, Gary M., Luke and Doug again. (Stoo,
> as much as I appreciated the offer of the beer, *je n'ai pas plus de 17 ans*!)
> Bernd, where were you? I was told that you were coming! I was
> looking forward to meeting you! (Oh, well.)
>
> I still had a few butterflies going into the Amphitheatre. I
> thought that maybe, since this was my second time seeing the Who, it
> wouldn't be so exciting. Boy, was I wrong! You have to love this band!
> My dad and I sat beside two very enthusiastic Who fans. The guy was
> more of a Daltrey fan, I think, because he wasn't all that well-informed.
> (He was under the impression that Simon was Pete's son.)
>
> First off, to all you people in the front, oh, *50* rows, I envy
> you. I was in the nosebleeds, and I was depending on the screen for a lot
> of the action. (It was still great, but it could have been better if I
> didn't have to strain to see!)
>
> Track by track.
> John just flew in "The Real Me"! Wow! And I love that Buzzard - I
> had no idea that the frets were numbered with Roman Numerals!
> I've always liked "Quadrophenia" as the Who's instrumentals go.
> They played it well.
> "Cut My Hair" just didn't sound as emotional as when I heard it at
> Buffalo. I don't know why, either. It was a great song, but....
> I like this new guy playing the Godfather! "The Punk and the
> Godfather" goes much better when the guy can follow a beat! And he can
> sing, too! I thought Roger's little homage/bowing thing to him when he came
> on was good.
> I adore "I'm One". That's all I can say about that.
> As much as the new Ace Face is a good actor, and a much better
> singer/speaker than Idol, he's too... too... nice. I don't think he knows
> how to be mean. The best he could do was to repeat the same swear over and
> over, ask if you want to go (I doubt he'd go through with it) and box with
> the air! (Or was that dancing?) He wasn't obnoxious or irritating, as I've
> always thought the Ace Face should be. "The Dirty Jobs" was well-sung, though.
> "Helpless Dancer" was good, too! I always liked it, despite that I
> disagree with some of the things it says one should fight against. I just
> wish that Roger hadn't tossed away the closing line - it's what makes the song.
> "Is It In My Head" still has the cheesy video of Jimmy against it,
> but otherwise I thought it was played strong and hard. I noticed for the
> first time that the banjo (or whatever it is) in "I've Had Enough" is
> pre-recorded! Go fig!
> John was even faster on "5:15" than before! (Who was it who coined
> the term "sof---ingfastit'sjustablur"? It applied!) The crowd was wooden
> in my section - they sat like lumps on logs! Thank goodness I was in the
> back row of the section, so I didn't bug anyone when I stood! My dad said
> he looked around, and the reason that people were sitting was that they were
> in awe, slack-jawed and wide-eyed.
> I got some ideas for my rendition of "Sea and Sand" from the
> performance last night. Just a few little embellishments.
> "Drowned" must be the most beautiful song ever written on this
> little rock we call home. (I'd hazard to add on any other planet, too, but
> that's pushing it a little.) I love this song. I would just die if someone
> ever sang it for me.
> "Bell Boy" was cute, as always. I really noticed Zack during this
> one - is he ever strong! I didn't think that the Ace Face deserved the
> kick; Idol was much better at making me think he's earned it.
> My dad was getting a little bored during "Dr. Jimmy", I guess,
> because he asked how long until it was over.
> I like "The Rock" better than "Quadrophenia". The duet between Pete
> and Simon was charged. I loved it!
> I got chills when Roger hit the high note at the end of "Love Reign
> O'er Me". (Did Rabbit's piano slip? A roadie rushed out and seemed to try
> to fix things, and he played a little more, and then seemed to give up!)
> I love these guys! I love 'em! I LOVE 'EM!
>
> Just a few impressions.
> Roger made some interesting faces, like at "the hypnotized never
> lie" (WGFA). I'm not sure if he was trying to look hypnotized or innocent,
> but it was a cute effect. Who says he can't act (at least a little)? The
> man must also have made a pact with some supernatural power, because nobody
> can look like that without some help when he's 53! He was a bit hoarse, but
> he gave it all he had. (You have to admire him.) Hot lemon tea and honey
> works wonders, Rog!
> It was Who-gasmic (if I may use the term, Stoo) to hear Pete play
> electric. Wow! His duet with Simon right after he strapped it on in "The
> Rock" brought tears to my eyes! I still can't figure out what it is about
> those windmills that makes a person's stomach leap into his throat, but it's
> amazing! I think I missed the first windmill, but Pete made that up with a
> bunch more! WOW!
> John was beyond belief, as usual. I think I'm going to start
> looking into his solo stuff.
> I couldn't close my eyes because I would cry - I tried it. It's so
> wonderful to see and hear them together, doing what they love to do.
> The show was very tight and well-performed.
> I did toss the pillow I made - it make it about 2/3 of the way to
> the stage. I hope it makes it, or at least I hope no weirdo picked it up.
> Yes, Pete, I DID miss Carin's sniff. (Only you would notice
> something like that!)
>
> The encore.
> Who was it that messed up the ending of WGFA? Was it Roger, missed
> his cue? It was still a rocking version (Pete may be the old boss and the
> new boss, Rog, but your name appears just as often in the credits!), no
> matter what happened. That "Pinball Wizard" teaser in the middle - oh, I
> almost died! Some lucky town is going to get that song, I know it!
> BBE was just nice.
> "Substitute" and "I Can't Explain" were great additions to the
> encore! They can still sing 'em well. (Looked like Pete had a problem with
> his monitor for "Sub". I thought for a second he was torturing us like he
> used to!)
> WAY reaffirmed my impression of a dead crowd! In my section, there
> was nobody singing! Nobody! (Except me and the woman next to my dad, that
> is.) C'mon, it's a rock concert!
> I like having most of the band out there to back the boys.
>
> I won't mention the limo to and from Ontario Place. (My dad's idea,
> and a great one, but... spooky.)
>
> JULY 30
>
> We were at 8:45. (Blah.) My eyes were sore from the secondhand pot
> smoke from the guys in front of us.
> We left the hotel at 10:03 am, and stopped only for lunch. I got
> back to by doorstep at 6:38 pm.
> What a trip.
>
> I'm looking for a tape of this show (Toronto July 29/97) if anyone
> ever hears of one, and I'm still interested in a tape of the show I saw at
> Buffalo (November 9/96).
> And... I have to put out a cry for help. I didn't have enough cash
> for the "Who Tour '97" t-shirt or a pin. If some good soul is willing to
> pick them up for me, I will gladly reimburse you (plus something for your
> trouble), or send you tapes, or a puppy, or... something! Anything! I'll
> really appreciate any help anyone can give me.
> Thanks!
>
> JenniferD
> My Guitar __ _____ http://www.nt.net/~jen/
> \---\____________/ - \
> :::=====================I | "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding
> /---/ \__ - ____/ through the night..." -The Python
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski)
> Subject: GET THOSE GUEST BOOK ENTRIES IN!
>
> Hey WHO HEADS! DON'T LOSE STEAM! You all started with a BANG! I spoke with
> MCA records today and they will view the guestbook! Lets keep on showing
> our support For THE WHO!
> BTW! When you sign the guestbook enter your NAME/STATE/COUNTRY & FAVE
> TUNE/LP in with your comment! The label would like to see where the support
> is coming from!
>
> It takes only A QUICK ONE!
>
> Jay 5:15
>
> The Sonics:The All Music Site! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski
> http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/ In Search Of The Lost Chord On The
> Threshold Of A Dream in the Octave.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:41:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thesonics@earthlink.net (Jay Siekierski)
> Subject: FACE DANCES: REVIEWED ON THE SONICS MUSIC SITE
>
> For your reading pleasure!
>
> The Who Face Dances/MCA
>
> I for one am celebrating this Who Face Dances/MCA reissued & remastered CD.
> Despite this album being written off by some fans & critics who think
> alike, listening to it now in its upgraded new form I can say that everyone
> who bashed this album better go back and hear this new reissued CD! Even I
> missed some stuff the first couple of plays years ago! The other earlier
> versions of this CD don't matter at all now. The 'sonics' are bloody
> fucking miraculous and the band hits you square in the face! Checkout "The
> Quiet One," "Cache Cache," & the classic "You Better You Bet" for warm ups!
> Before your through with this CD you will be flattened! As a bonus, 5
> unreleased cuts are included to give you more of a whipping. 3 unreleased
> songs from the Face Dances sessions are interesting and they are "I Like
> Nightmares," "It's In You" & "Somebody Saved Me". 2 live cuts "How Do You
> Do It Alone" from Chicago, December 8th, 1979 and "The Quiet One" from Shea
> Stadium, New York October 13th, 1982 are shakers! All the original artwork
> is restored and great new liner notes the albums history are informative
> and 2 cool unreleased pixs from the period have been included. The digital
> overhaul is a BLOW OUT! Errr....Get this CD now. YOU BETTER YOU BET! Jay
> Siekierski
>
> The Sonics:The All Music Site! Music Editor: Jay'Sonics'Siekierski
> http://home.earthlink.net/~thesonics/Getting In Tune in the Octave!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:15:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jennifer Lee Davies <jen@nt.net>
> Subject: oh yeah!
>
> I mentioned I'm looking for boots of the two shows I saw - Buffalo
> and Toronto Quad - but I'm also looking for Portland. Thanx!
>
> JenniferD
> My Guitar __ _____ http://www.nt.net/~jen/
> \---\____________/ - \
> :::=====================I | "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding
> /---/ \__ - ____/ through the night..." -The Python
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:21:44 -0400
> From: Peco Corporation <peco@flash.net>
> Subject: Tanglewood Music Shed
>
> Does anyone know anything more about the Tanglewood show that
> was in the 30 Years video?
>
> It definitely started out better sounding than even IOW.
>
> I'd love to get a boot of that video.....you to huh.
>
> Dan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:02:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jennifer Lee Davies <jen@nt.net>
> Subject: Hartford pre-show
>
> I'm looking for info on the pre-show gathering at Hartford on
> Bernd's behalf. Is it the Jai Alai parking lot, as the O&S page says?
>
> JenniferD
> My Guitar __ _____ http://www.nt.net/~jen/
> \---\____________/ - \
> :::=====================I | "Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding
> /---/ \__ - ____/ through the night..." -The Python
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:16:47 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jennifer Lee Davies <jen@nt.net>
> Subject: Gar Glitter vs PJ Proby
>
> We haven't had a poll in a while, and seeing as I'm on summer
> holidays (with nothing better to do), I'm going to hold one.
> I was talking on the phone with Bernd earlier today, and something
> he said got me to thinking. Most of the reviews from these shows have been
> favourable for PJ Proby as the Godfather, but Bernd rather liked Glitter better.
> What's the general concensus (sp?) among those who have seen a show
> in both the '96 and '97 legs of this tour? Who do you think is better and why?
> Please e-mail me privately with your answer - I won't use it if it's
> on the digest and not to me at least Cc'ed. I'll tally up the raw numbers
> and if someone has a good argument for either Godfather, I'll add that in
> the results, too.
> Thanx!
>
> JenniferD
> My Guitar __ _____ http://www.nt.net/~jen/
> \---\____________/ - \
> :::=====================I | "You realize that all along, something in us
> /---/ \__ - ____/ going wrong... You stop dancing."
>
> ------------------------------
>
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