Re: Censor-round

[mleaman@sccoast.net (Mark Leaman)]

>On Fri, 24 May 1996 16:56:04 -0400, mleaman@sccoast.net (Mark Leaman)
>wrote:
>
>>BTW, if my Eudora program has such a filter, I haven't seen it. So some of
>>us don't have that particular advantage.
>
>It does, however, have a sorting mechanism that can accomplish the
>same thing. Just set up a folder for things you don't want to see, and
>have all mail from that address sent to this folder. You can delete
>the contents of that folder sight unseen. It isn't the least bit
>difficult.

Kevin:

What you're talking about is for me to transfer the mail, piece by piece, to
another folder and then to trash the entire thing. Actually, it would be
faster just to delete. Which I shouldn't have to do, since RT has no right
to EMail me 14 times with the same note in the first place. Do you let
people walk over you, or do you stop it? Maybe it's a Southern thing (and
then again, maybe it's not) but I allow some leeway and when my patience
runs out it ends. I end it. Since I don't intentionally bother other people,
I feel rather secure in this attitude. I don't do something to others I
wouldn't enjoy having done to me. My store operates on the same
principal...I'm not out for money, I'm out to make the customers happy. As
long as I make enough to continue, I'm happy (and so are they...lots of
repeat business proves how well this works).
At first, the thing was amusing. Then it was annoying. Now it's over. And
I'm not sorry that I refuse to let someone push me around. Maybe I'm a dying
breed, but (as Daltrey said so well) I'm a man. Way past 21, too.

>Hmmm...Fang threatens to get Rich T. fired if he sends another e-mail,
>and then *you* went along with the idea that if he gets fired it is
>his own fault. Looks like blame shifting to me.

Well then look again. The only person that will get RT fired is RT. He WAS
asked privately to stop...many times by me at least, and who knows how many
times by others. He refused and became abusive (at least to me) privately.
Even today I got nasty EMail from him.

>>Kevin, you misunderstand me. I don't want to send any info to anyone, and I
>>said as much. It's not in my nature to air dirty laundry. You, not knowing
>>and not really needing to know what I'm speaking of here, are making a
>>too-quick assessment. 
>
>This still boils down to "trust me."

Well then don't trust me, it's not really important to me that you do.
You're just working with insufficent information, and I know it.

>For small things I would give you the benefit of the doubt. But you
>are asking me to trust that you have grounds getting someone fired
>that you do not want anyone else to know about. That is asking rather
>a lot.

Again, the only thing that will get him fired is himself. Period. And
remember, I am not the one threating to get him fired. If you have a problem
with that, take it up with WF, not me. I was busy playing "bait the
tightass" (much like "bait the Xtian," which I always play at the Mardi Gras
where they swarm trying to stop us from enjoying ourselves). If I happen to
think that some of RT's actions are way out of line, and you want to blast
me for that, OK then. Sounds to me like you agree with me more than you
disagree, though.

>Annoying, perhaps, but scarcely grounds for getting someone fired.
>Where do you draw the line? If this doesn't work, are you going to
>kill him? There is such a thing as proportionality. If someone is
>being a jerk on-line, you flame him. We were all having a good time
>doing that before Fang went crazy. That is an appropriate response.

Well, I doubt that most of the others enjoy constant flaming. I don't.
Therefore...

>>Hopefully now you understand. No censorship is being attempted by either me
>>or WF. Rather, the opposite.
>
>If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

In this case, it's a swan.
Look, stopping someone from censoring IS NOT CENSORING. Get it? When someone
steps over the line (as RT did), he must be willing to take his medicine.
The same applies to me...if you think I'm out of line, contact my company
(that's Generations Used CDs, PH: 803-293-7236) and tell the guy that
answers the phone that you want to speak with the head honcho.



                   Cheers                   ML

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."  L. Long