Re: Anybody know...

[Doug Ciceri <dciceri@credit.erin.utoronto.ca>]

>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:09:15 -0400
>To: bkawa@ix.netcom.com (Bruce Kawakami)
>From: Doug Ciceri <dciceri@credit.erin.utoronto.ca>
>Subject: Re: Anybody know...
>
>Hi Bruce (and WF)!
>
>I think you are forgetting about The Who doing the King Bisquit Flower
Hour.  I'm not sure of the venue or the date, but it was a radio broadcast
in the 1970's (when they were already 'superstars').  Can WF add anything to
this - i.e., have you heard the recording of this?
>
>Doug.
>
>At 01:36 AM 5/28/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>You wrote: 
>>>
>>>>Chris, re:
>>>>
>>>>>...the source for the 12/01/75 Kansas City show?  It sounds like it 
>>could
>>>>have been a radio broadcast - great sound!
>>>>
>>>>I believe it was a radio broadcast. Mark L, comments???
>>>
>>>wf:
>>>
>>>...It sounds like a radio show to me, in a lot of ways...but if so 
>>then it was
>>>a live broadcast, `cause it's not mixed like a KBFH or WW1. 
>>
>>Hi folks:
>>
>>This in fact is a excellent audience recording.  There are things to 
>>look for in distinguishing raw (ie not mixed) board tapes from good 
>>audience tapes.  The main thing is to listen to the crowd noise.  This 
>>show was at the sold out (17,600) Kemper Arena, therefore you should 
>>not hear "individuals" talking, clapping, screaming, etc. if it is a 
>>soundboard tape. On this tape you can hear individual people talking, 
>>after Baba O' Riley, you can hear a man say "Whoa" in a normal spoken 
>>voice.  On a board tape you should not hear this, exspecially in an 
>>arena with 17,600 people.  Even on the Leeds tape from a small (1500 or 
>>so) theatre people have to scream to be heard.  Also raw boards tapes 
>>tend to be very "dry" sounding, that is with very little echo or 
>>reverb.  Remember adding echo is one of the major things they did to 
>>Leeds (and in some cases too much was added, ie Magic Bus) On this 
>>tape, you can "hear" the size of the arena in the talking by the band 
>>in between songs.  
>>
>>Furthermore, at this point (1975) there was very little reason for the 
>>band to do "local broadcasts."  Such broadcasts are usually done by 
>>artists on their way up who need the exposure.  The Who were superstars 
>>by this time, which means they get paid for their services (which is 
>>what companies like KBFH and WW1 did).  Why would a "local" company, 
>>who has to pay for the recording and the artist,  broadcast a Who 
>>concert?  The only way they could make money would be to sell 
>>commercials to be heard during the broadcast.  To do this they would 
>>have to insert the commercials in later.  The cost of recording a show 
>>is much higher than broadcasting a show live.  It's all about money.  
>>Of course the tape in question is a complete concert with no 
>>commercials and no DJ's.  
>>
>>I can think of only one "local broadcast" of a Who concert in the US, 
>>Chicago Dec 1979.  This concert was simulcast in local movie theatres 
>>in Chicagoland.  The key here is that it cost $7.98 per person to get 
>>in, (and was also sponsored by The Loop radio station) which covered 
>>costs and probably made a little profit.
>>
>>Bruce
>>
>>
>
Douglas L. Ciceri

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