Another festival stolen"

[Joe Lewinski]

Jon wrote:
 > I posted the ITA link  Where Pete and Rachel have the Raconteurs  on on The
Little Room  (Raconteurs/White Stripes board) and they're all  freaking out
about it!  It's so cool to read what others are saying.

 > Try this.  If it won't let you, type in "jon in mi"  and "jazzy1"  for a
password.

 >_The  Little Room -> The Raconteurs - Tour Talk_
(<http://littleroom.whitestripes.net/index.php?showforum=37>http://littleroom.whitestripes.net/index.php?showforum=37) 


 > Pete has massive respect out there.


Jon:  I've watched this ITA a couple of times.  I can't get over how Jack just
hops in the trailer and kind of takes over.   Him volunteering to sing the
Seeker so quickly speaks to a confidence of his talent.   They pulled it
off brilliantly.   I love the way he changed the lyrics to "I asked 
Pete Townshend..."

It's as if the baton is being passed to the next mega-quasar of music.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Ernie wrote:

 >> he Who is a brand, much like the Yankees and Lakers are a brand.
 >>

> >gah, I hate that.   plus, comparing "the who" to the yankees and 
> the lakers.
>let's face it, those two teams weren't as great as they used to be. the
>yankees are the most paid baseball team right now I think, probably 
>because the team
>had the likes of mickey mantle and babe ruth and they think every teammate
>that comes after them are just as good.


Yeah, I'm not a fan of either of these teams, but I
see you got my point.


 >> Pete Townshend has done something that no other band has done [again
a first]: He's created a vehicle to keep his music in the public's
ears and minds.


>well, what about bob seger's "Like a rock" in those car ads? that preceeds
>the who about a decade I think. like what Letterman said, "I think he's sold
>more trucks than anything else" with that song.    that's all it is 
>in the end
>isn't it? selling cars. think anyone cares about the music featured in it?

Yes.  You do, and I do.  You remembered this detail, people
who dig Bob Seger remember it.  Chevy truck buyers who
bought their trucks and think of themselves as some modern
cowboy associated the two very closely.  That's why it works.

>  does
>anyone even care about commercials? I heard advertisers have it a bit rough
>nowadays because people are recording programs with tivo and fast 
>forwarding the
>commercials (although they should do what I do and record programs on VHS so
>they can pause when the commercials come on so you don't have to fast forward
>anything, but anyway..)

I'm not just talking about commercials here. They are film,
television and streaming video programs that run along
with this music / *themes*. This placement is a derivative of the 
music video format.


>  unless there's a thing on the bottom left side of the
>TV like a music video that tells you the artist, song and album title, you're
>just a marketing whore and making it bad for everyone who heard that song
>when it was either on the radio or on their turntable or CD player and felt
>somewhat of a spiritual connection to it.  so to hear it selling 
>cars or tampons or
>whatever.... think about it.

Yep, I agree that it would be cool to have the artist's
name and the song title show up, but lack of this has never
stopped me from seeking out songs that I hear and like.


>why don't pete just admit it, he needs the
>money!! why? dunno.

Everybody needs money.  Let's just accept that.  How much
people need or want depends on their life-style choices
and ambitions.  I won't touch life-style choices, because
I don't believe that Pete lives and extravagant life, and
I base this solely on the fact that he does not have his
own zoo!  :->

So, let's talk about ambitions.  I'll suggest that Pete has
very large ambitions, and has funded many expensive
projects that are both ground-breaking, and at the same
time very expensive.   We all benefit from these projects
so we can either fund them directly, or indirectly.
I'm willing to fund it either way if I like the artist
or the art.

>    let's be happy that neil young so far has kept to his word
>and still refuses to sing for pepsi or coke.
>"this note's for you' a$$hole! ; )

This is one of the the differences between Neil Young and
Pete Townshend.   I like Neil too.  I like his music,
his lyrics, and a lot of his philosophy.   I don't agree
that artists have to starve or be under-compensated for
their work.

>anyway, I hope you sent that letter to the person it was "dear"ed to.

I did send it to Ryan Merrill and cc'd this list.  I have not heard 
back from him
yet.   I don't expect to.   He probably has his circle of friends 
that encourage
him and his writing slant.    He'll understand the gist of my point in about
22.5 years - if we're lucky sooner!  ;-\


Joe in Philly