The heart of The Who speaks!
pkeets at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 27 23:50:04 CDT 2004
>>I haven't seen Pete this fired up for years."
>This is basic to the album's success and the reason for the rave live
reviews. -And why they should still be called The Who!
It does come down to the spirit of the whole thing, doesn't it?
>>The restrictions that are always there when there was the three
of you break down when there's two - or you perceive that it does.
Two's company, three's a crowd."
>I know this is a quip, but he better look for a letter from Queenie.
Ha. You're really on tonight, Jon. :)
But that is curious, isn't it? I thought John was always the one most
excluded from decisions and most willing to play, and here's Roger hinting
that he was a drag on the whole thing. Maybe it was hard feelings that
stood in the way, or old arguments and resentments. Or maybe the old lack
>>But what do I know? You forget, I've never seen The Who live."
>Aha! The monitors must put out more bass than the PA.
>>He just articulates a
human feeling that most other blokes have felt as well." (Notice Rog
said 'human' & not 'spiritual!' - Schrade)
>Roger's purpose in life and enjoyment seems to concern the band itself and
he's more of a pragmatist. On WBN, Pete did mainly focus on human
but he was on the way down. He was affected by the excesses of his life.
are all humans and humans have feelings. If we didn't have human feelings
the ability to express them, we would truly be mere animals or robots of
>The thing I admire most about Pete is that no matter if he is up or down,
doesn't lose sight of the fact that there is something more. He's deeply
honest. Pete sees more than Roger does. Roger can identify that Pete has a
gift and is honest about that. But Roger may not realize that he himself
the same capacity if he weren't so limited by his love of the band. There
so much more to see if we would open to see it.
I dunno. I suspect that Roger is just more concerned with experience than
with abstract thinking. As I've said here before, Roger doesn't lack for
It's possible that if the songwriting tasks were shared a little more during
The Who's early years, Roger would have developed into a songwriter of some
talent. Remember that he and Pete both deal in archetypes, but Roger seems
more concerned with the way things are than what lies behind them. That
doesn't say anything about how he deals with spiritual matters.
If I were to ascribe a spiritual outlook to Roger, it would be Zen. He
doesn't have to look for Oneness. He's there already. He just is.
>When Roger couldn't articulate his feelings, he would start punching
Many take this route verbally because of a narrow view.
That's true, and it's possible that Roger has spent most of his life with a
narrow view, but Roger is one of those people who act on feelings. Remember
the title here--he's the heart of The Who and verbal ability is always
insufficient to express immediate and towering passions.
Also, Zen implies an instinctive response.
>That being said, surely Pete has a particular function that Roger doesn't
have. People are different. But Roger has inner eyes too that he may not
of. I think that people tend to confuse intelligence with spiritual sight.
Some folks are just more intelligent than others. People give credit to
for his genius. But spirituality is not governed by intelligence.
Intelligence is "harnessed" by spirituality to express what is seen once
tapped. To do this, one must turn from their mind to their spirit. If you
don't open to do this, it won't happen. A person will remain an objective
thinker that knows objective facts.
What do you think of Zen, Jon? Certainly I'm no expert on spirituality, but
as I understand the discipline, it's about being without thinking, feeling
without inquiry, and trusting in universal truths.
In other words, Roger's preferred spiritual experience is hearing The Who
crank up behind him (other bands will do, but preferrably The Who). Singing
is his method of communication with the Great Oneness. He calls to it, and
it answers him. We audience at the show get to share in his experience, but
this is nothing to feeling the real thing.
I'm sure he appreciates Pete's inquiry into what's behind the whole thing,
and especially for the unique, wonderful and multilayered tool that Pete
provides for Roger's to use, but still other bands and other music will do.
(I've just heard a boot file from the Lonnie Donigan tribute, and Roger was
hitting on all cylinders. It sounded like a fine spiritual experience. :)
>I can testify that my human spirit works. It can sense the difference
between a smart guy talking and a spiritual person touching spiritual
But you don't think Roger touches spiritual things because he uses other
people's words to speak? I agree that it's difficult for a follower of Zen
to articulate the Path. That's why Zen is so opaque.
>Pete spoke of the "Note." The Universal chord. What a discovery! Roger
agreed and stated that "If we ever do find out what the meaning of human
it'll be a "note."' He didn't come up with it, but he at least agreed with
what Pete saw.
Pete is the analyst. He can take the inchoate exerience and articulate it
into words. Hey, it's a rare gift to articualte Zen. ;)
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