Pino on bass

Frate, Chris (EM, PTL) Chris.Frate at
Tue Jun 1 11:11:06 CDT 2004

What it really comes down to, I think, is who's in the inner circle? At this
point it's "who do you like to hang with?" If they were really interested in
recreating the old sound, they could have held an audition. God knows that
there are a lot of extremely talented musicians that no one has ever heard
of merely because they are great players who never hooked up with a great
songwriter (I firmly believe that we probably would have never heard of
Roger, John, or Keith if they hadn't hooked up with Pete. Conversely, Pete
probably would have still been successful, but would not have acheived the
legendary status he has now without the other three). One of these great
musicians with a "lead bass" style would have showed up to an audition for
an iconic band such as The Who.

Pino is known to them, has a personality they like, they feel comfortable
with him, and - at around sixty years old - that's what Pete and Roger care
about. I think Kenney and Simon (Phillips) only got booted because the band
couldn't recreate the fire with them in there. For some reason, even though
Pino's style is much more laid back than we fans would like, the fire is
still there, so I don't see any changes forthcoming.

-Chris in Cleveland

-----Original Message-----
From: Karbon Karbon [mailto:tetrakarbon at]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:48 AM
To: thewho at
Subject: Re: Pino on bass

>From: Biggsk at

>The trick to a power trio - which the Who, Zep, Cream, Jimi Hendrix
>Experience - were, is that when the guitarist soloes the rest of the band 
>must overplay
>some to compensate for the lack of a rhythm instrument (either another 
>or keyboards).  Cream nailed it; the Who nailed it, Hendrix got it 2/3 
>(Redding on bass was OK - he was a guitarist actually) - Zep only got it a 
>The trick to the Who's sound live was having, as an old friend once said, a
>lead guitar, a lead bass and a lead drummer.  That is what all power trios 
>to have.
>Even with a keyboard and extra guitar in the Who today, the bass is lacking
>as the foundation.

Very well spoken.  I agree completely.  And for precisely this reason, it's 
a bad idea to select a bassist simply on association with a famous band (I'm

not saying that was why John Paul Jones was brought up).  I did hear Bill 
Wyman mentioned, and that couldn't be any worse, IMHO.  There needs to be a 
strong sonic foundation for Townshend's soloing.  And Zak, great as I think 
he is, cannot fulfil that role all by himself.

Playing bass is less about skill than it is about attitude, it seems to me.

Guitarists can pick up a bass and play it, but they don't have the mindset -

what bass is supposed to sound like. :)

Anyway, that's why I'd stay away from JPJ or Wyman.  And Palladino has shown

that he won't lay this foundation down (he certainly _could_, he's 
talented), and so the sound of the Who falls flat (relatively).  They're 
still awesome - especially because Pete solos differently than he used to - 
but it's a different sound.  Different is good, but if a spark of that old 
energy could come back, all the better!

It's a shame, and I hope they look into it.  Maybe they should give Lake a 
chance on stage?

-- Ned Ruggeri

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