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NakedI at comcast.net
Fri Jul 23 08:40:57 CDT 2004
----- Original Message ----- From: "L. Bird"
> >>I think it's the ideal word, too. I just think it IS ideal because it's
> >>very general word that covers a broad array of feelings not necessarily
> >>related to Christianity or even to a Christian type of God.
> >Is there someone here that you think doesn't get that?
> Aren't you questioning the general usage of it below?
I'm questioning why every time someone mentions god, you feel the need to
point out that god is not exclusively Christian. I think we all know that.
> Then how are secular humanists to discuss their spiritual feelings? I
> that spiritual isn't just observational. The spiritual capacity is
> something that's wired into the human brian, and it doesn't go away when
> someone intellectually rejects something as supernatural.
I don't think they have spiritual feelings. I think they have deep,
profound, wonderful feelings that are purely non-spiritual. This is exactly
what I mean by bending word meanings so that no one feels left out. This is
nothing against anyone's thoughts or beliefs. I'm just standing up for the
meaning of a word.
> I agree. The way we live tends to remove us from nature, and we begin to
> see the world as man-made and to lose touch with our origins, and with
> matters of the spirit.
That's true, but not what I meant. "Nature" is only spiritual if you assign
a persona or conciousness to it. I.e., cultures that worship Nature and
treat it like a deity.
> Hmmm. How did we get into this discussion? Maybe it's necessary to
> why it is that I see spirituality in some of Pete's songs that Mark
> see at all.
Or why you couldn't see any in Bargain.
> Is that why we're dicussing definitions? Does Pete have to mention the
> divine or supernatural in order to write a spiritual song? Or does he
> have to arouse spiritual feelings in the listener?
I'll never argue with anyone about what they feel when they listen to a
song. But, there's plenty of room for debate about what Pete intended.
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