All Sorts of Things
pkeets at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 21 00:08:29 CDT 2004
>Well, I'm back from my self-imposed exile. I felt really bad about my last
"discussion" with Jon, so I decided to take a break from you lot. (And give
you lot a well-deserved break from me!)
Hey, welcome back Schrade. :) We missed you.
>But, I do want to publicly apologize to him, & the entire list, for my
the-top tirade. I am sorry. I'm working on trying to control my militant
atheism (in light of all the goddamned militant *spiritualism* on this
Yeah, right. That's us. Yer gonna do it our way, see? ;)
>>Paradoxically, Howard Stern and Clear Channel (both high-profile
>supporters of the administration) have been heavily fined.
>Er....have you listened to Stern lately? He's on a mission to help drive
from office. He's decidedly anti-Bush & blames Bush for much of his
troubles with the FCC.
Yeah. He's pissed, and publicly stated that he's re-thought his support of
Bush. Regardless of what MC says about previous fines, I'm under the
impression that the latest are a new high. High enough that several Clear
Channel radio stations have dropped him.
>>After all, Pete has said that ALL his songs are about God.
>Please don't make me list all of Pete's songs that *aren't* about God.
>Imagine how long that list would be!
All a matter of opinion. I didn't make up the quote (I don't think I did,
anyway.) I've read it somewhere.
>Again, I feel we must be careful throwing this term "spiritual" around.
I've stated, I have spiritual moments, but I don't believe in deities or
thing concerned with the supernatural.
I think this is a perfectly supportable stand. However, you always have to
deal with the fact that other people do believe strongly in a diety, or not.
I'm not sure all Buddhists believe in a diety. Whatever, I'm prepared to
try to understand their point of view.
>I'm not arguing that Pete doesn't imbibe many his songs with an
>undercurrent of spirituality in the Godly sense; I think it's obvious that
As David said, Pete's ideas of spirituality may be very cock-eyed. What is
this "One Note" thing, after all? ;)
>But to think of *all* his songs as having *some* spiritual/religious aspect
to them is a sort of tunnelvision which in the end reduces his writing
to an almost one-dimensional simplicity, thereby excluding many of the
*other* themes & ideas within his music. And that's just not right. ;-)
To be honest, I can think of several songs where I don't see any
spirituality. As I've said, I'm not sure where that quote about ALL Pete's
songs being about God is from. If Pete said it, I expect he was being flip,
and likely in the next breath he said they were all about masturbation.
I'm just repeating it to give Mark a hard time. My reading of the lyrics
says Pete later songs are just as spiritual as his earlier ones. Tsk, tsk.
How can you not see that, Mark?
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