Williams, etc.



joshr via celtics celtics at igtc.com
Thu Jul 2 16:04:34 UTC 2015


Amir has been my favorite Raptor for years. He brings his lunch pail every night and fits perfectly into the culture that Stevens is building. He is a legitimate building block. Given the lack of interested A-listers this is the best signing possible.


> On Jul 2, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Alex Goldblatt via celtics <celtics at igtc.com> wrote:
> 
> Great post, Mark!
> 
> I think that's the kind of situation when we met with gravity - and the
> outcome is very predictable. Couple of odd thoughts from yesterday:
> 
> 1. We don't have Paul P to persuade top talent. We'll need to trade or to
> groom one. 2 picks from the Nets might be golden.
> 2. Patience is the key, and Danny plays it right (IMO) getting maximum, as
> far as I can see, out of what's available. Team is already improved, and we
> didn't bite on expensive bloated contracts just for the sake of getting
> one.
> 3. I was real critical r AB's contract - Danny looks like a genius now, and
> I have to apologies (again...)
> 4. Sellers market overall: Middleton with 70, DeRozan scored 60, etc., etc.
> - and it will get worse in 2 years. We see reshaping of every consideration
> we know of: team structure, contract negations, available players, etc. I'm
> 100% sure that trade market will change as well, and it might REALLY slow
> down for the next 2 years. I will not be surprised if NOTHING will happen
> until then. C's will have to improve with organic growth, so making
> playoffs become the next target.
> 
> AG
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Mark Berry via celtics <celtics at igtc.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> After the draft and free agency, it’s pretty clear we have to adjust the
>> way we think about this offseason. Ainge couldn’t move up in the draft, so
>> he stayed put and took what he saw as the best player available at each
>> spot. I have no problem with that philosophy. Even if it creates roster
>> duplication, depth is valuable when it comes to trades. And development is
>> critical – it’s why I’m so curious about James Young heading into the
>> summer league and next season.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When it became clear none of the top guys were coming to Boston (Kevin Love
>> was the only one I really had any hope for), I became less concerned with
>> adding impact players and more concerned with not doing anything stupid.
>> Maxing out Greg Monroe was one of those things that might have ended up
>> looking stupid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, what about Amir Johnson? I feel like he has killed the Celtics in the
>> past, which put him in the “why can’t we get guys like that?” file for me.
>> I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say his overall impact is comparable
>> to Monroe’s. He’s clearly a better defender, and much more versatile on
>> that end of the floor. He can guard 4/5 effectively and is strong as a pick
>> and roll defender. Rebounding is a wash, although Johnson is a better
>> offensive rebounder and everything I’ve read says he’s one of the league’s
>> better players at securing contested rebounds.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Monroe is the more polished offensive player with the ball in his hands – a
>> strong post player and excellent passer for a big man. But Johnson
>> consistently has a positive impact on his team’s offensive performance.
>> He’s a great screener, good roll man, and scores efficiently without plays
>> being run for him. That’s a valuable thing. Now – the Celtics clearly need
>> more players who they want to run plays for, but I’m not convinced Monroe
>> is that guy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Monroe is going to get a four-year max deal for something around $80
>> million, most likely. Even with the cap rising, that’s a big investment –
>> in money, but more importantly in the length of the deal – for a pretty
>> one-dimensional player. Johnson’s two-year commitment, with the
>> non-guaranteed second year, preserves a lot of flexibility and is an
>> attractive trade piece either at the deadline or at next year’s draft. Did
>> Ainge pay a bit of a premium in annual value for that flexibility?
>> Probably, but that’s a good trade. I’ll take the flexibility over maybe an
>> extra $2 million in cap space this summer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, Williams is adored by teammates and stat gurus alike. He’s a guy
>> who does things to make teams better. He plays hard and is tough and
>> unselfish. He’s the anti-Bass in terms of on-court impact. Bass
>> consistently fared poorly in every advanced metric that measures on/off
>> court performance. Williams excels. This is a major upgrade. I expect him
>> to play a lot of center in lineups with Olynyk, Jerebko or Crowder
>> stretching the floor at the PF spot. He excelled in those types of lineups
>> in Toronto. My guess is Williams/Olynyk is the starting frontcourt, but
>> we'll see.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m sure there will be trades this summer, but this is going to be a long
>> process. Ainge is trying to be in position to outbid everyone when an
>> impact player hits the market. That player could be Kevin Love (he wasn’t
>> happy there last season and it’s still an imbalanced roster in Cleveland).
>> It could be DeMarcus Cousins (at some point, the Kings are going to realize
>> it just isn’t working, and after last night’s bizarre trade, they’re going
>> to need draft picks – we have draft picks). And don’t rule out things going
>> south in OKC. It’s impossible to know for sure.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It’s not fun to play the vulture, waiting to pick from another team’s
>> carcass, but that’s where we are. This team isn’t built to tank for draft
>> picks and it isn’t established enough to be a destination for free agents
>> looking for a championship contender. I wish there were short cuts, but
>> they just don’t exist. So, I’m going to enjoy the ride.
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