Celts mailed it in tonight

[TroySusieBrady]

Well said Ryan.

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From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf
Of Ryan W
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Celts mailed it in tonight

Agreed that we need to limit Ray/Paul's minutes.

But what's worse is that we're giving HUGE minutes to Ray and Paul and still
LOSING those games.  Doc likes to say that if it's a question between
winning a game in December and having a healthy team in May, he'll choose
the later...well, first, that's patently false, as Doc has chosen the
possible win in December pretty much every time when faced with either
over-playing guys or giving spot minutes to Walker/Giddens/Hudson.  Second,
we're not even winning when he does overplay those guys, so what's the
point?  There is no point, Doc's just dumb (on this point).

Whether Walker/Giddens have NBA talent to be rotation guys isn't even part
of the debate here: it's whether playing them spot minutes will have the
same immediate W/L effect while preserving the legs of our veterans.  I'm
pretty sure it will and have about zero effect on winning or losing those
particular games.  I'm pretty sure Walker could give us the kind of net zero
'brilliance' regularly supplied by Scal.

Another thing completely overlooked in this discussion is the wildcard
factor--how an unknown can, from time to time, jump into a game and swing it
wildly in one's favor simply because of adrenalin of finally playing
combined with the fact that the other team knows nothing of their game.
That D-Leaguer recently signed by Utah, that one who stepped in for an
injured D-Williams in the 4th quarter of the Cavs game, hitting 3 3s,
including the game winner with no time on the clock comes to mind as the
perfect example of the wildcard in action in an NBA game.  Walker/Giddens
have the same potential, if used.  Again, our coach has no creativity
whatsoever and would probably forfeit a game before giving our young players
a chance.

Ryan

--- On Fri, 1/15/10, TroySusieBrady <tsb33 at windstream.net> wrote:

> From: TroySusieBrady <tsb33 at windstream.net>
> Subject: RE: Celts mailed it in tonight
> To: "'The Boston Celtics Mailing List'" <celtics at igtc..com>
> Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 11:38 PM its not about struggling.  It
> is about not killing Paul & Ray before April!
> Notice that the Spurs are losing a lot of games too. Injuries are a
> part of it but also, Pop is intentionally setting Duncan out about
> every 4 th game to save him for when it matters while also developing
> his young guys.  Doc you need to take a lesson from Pop!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com]
> On Behalf
> Of John Lyell
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:32 AM
> To: Celtics
> Subject: Re: Celts mailed it in tonight
>
> Agreed staying healthy at the end is the key. The lakers have
> struggled without gasol . Take away 3 of any teams top 6 and they will 
> struggle.
> ------Original Message------
> From: Eric Albert
> Sender: celtics-bounces at igtc.com
> To: Celtics
> ReplyTo: Celtics
> Subject: Re: Celts mailed it in tonight
> Sent: Jan 14, 2010 11:23 PM
>
> I guess I'm the only one who was impressed with the Celtics tonight.
> They had nothing, and they still hung within winning distance right up
> till the end.
>
> I don't get the love for Giddens and Walker. We have eleven players
> who are better. Three of those players are injured, and two just
> returned from injuries.
>
> Any elite team with our number of players out would be suffering. If
> we continue with all these injuries, we're not going anywhere.
> If guys come
> back and stay healthy, we'll do some damage. Coaching isn't going to
> change that.
>
> -- Eric
>
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