Just say no

Jaims jaims at pldtdsl.net
Wed Feb 25 21:48:13 UTC 2009


des mason is already out for the season...ACL injury.

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From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf
Of John Lyell
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:54 AM
To: ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com; The Boston Celtics Mailing List
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Subject: Re: Just say no

The difference here is marbury isn't they key player but filling a role
And the 3 amigos will hopefully control him

If we can land Dez mason drop giddens

On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well said, Gene.  I agree with you on most counts and the things  
> I've read about Marbury today alone make me literally afraid of the  
> guy.  That said, I think it still has a good chance of working.  The  
> whole Starbury thing didn't start until he was traded to New York, a  
> city with all kinds of nefarious characters from Marbury's past  
> ready to pounce on him and give him negative reinforcement day after  
> day.  And then you have to consider the negative reinforcement that  
> was the Knicks under Isiah Thomas, one of the worst general managers  
> and coaches of all time.  Then you have D'Antoni basically telling  
> Marbury to stay home this past preseason.  So, basically what I'm  
> saying is that you're a product of your environment and Marbury has  
> lived in a toxic one for the last 4 years.  Before coming to NY, he  
> actually had a decent reputation...
>
> Further, we're getting him during the perfect storm for his  
> resurgence--everybody's hating on him, saying he's going to sabotage  
> the Cs just like every other team he's played on, so this is pretty  
> much his only chance to build his value for a contract next season.   
> If he flames out here, he's going to have to head to Europe to play  
> pro ball.  He's also well-rested, healthy, and being asked to play a  
> small role on a championship team for the next 3 months.  So,  
> everything's set up for him to succeed, it's just a matter of him  
> doing it.  And I have no doubt that he can...troubled, highly  
> talented athletes usually take moments like these to recapture their  
> glory (think Terrell Owens in his initial stops in Phil. and  
> Dallas)...if only to lose it again in a season or two.  But that's  
> the thing: we're offering Marbury a chance to rehabilitate his image  
> and he's offereing us a better chance to win.  All he has to do is  
> behave for 3 months and he's golden, free
> to sign a bloated contract with some stupid team in the  
> offseason....  It's a win/win for both sides.
>
> And if it doesn't work out?  He's easily released, with Sam Cassell  
> waiting in wings to replace him.  This is a Red-like move, taking a  
> chance on a talented head case that nobody else would touch, knowing  
> that head case is motivated to prove everyone wrong and that for  
> once in his life he's going to sacrifice for the betterment of the  
> team.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, gene kirkpatrick <gk_tyler at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: gene kirkpatrick <gk_tyler at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Just say no
>> To: "celtics" <celtics at igtc.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:14 AM
>> My instinct is that Marbury is not good for any team, so why
>> would he be good for us?  I understand the metrics:  as a
>> true point, he would give House the chance to be a true #2,
>> as an offensive threat, he would have to be taken
>> seriously--unlike Pruitt, and he is a skilled ball-handler
>> and passer, he would be a solid distributor.  Maybe.  He
>> also has over-valued his own offense, never really played
>> defense, and literally wrecked teams with his attitude.  I
>> will admit that Pruitt has disappointed, but I just
>> don't see the big plus that Marbury would bring.  My
>> instinct is that poison players are considered that for a
>> reason.  I hope we don't sign him.  I understand our
>> desire to secure a team that is invincible, but no team
>> really is.  I'd rather live with a weakness than add
>> another type weakness.  Cheers, Gene
>>
>>
>>
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