Just say no
Jaims
jaims at pldtdsl.net
Wed Feb 25 21:48:13 UTC 2009
des mason is already out for the season...ACL injury.
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From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf
Of John Lyell
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:54 AM
To: ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com; The Boston Celtics Mailing List
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Subject: Re: Just say no
The difference here is marbury isn't they key player but filling a role
And the 3 amigos will hopefully control him
If we can land Dez mason drop giddens
On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well said, Gene. I agree with you on most counts and the things
> I've read about Marbury today alone make me literally afraid of the
> guy. That said, I think it still has a good chance of working. The
> whole Starbury thing didn't start until he was traded to New York, a
> city with all kinds of nefarious characters from Marbury's past
> ready to pounce on him and give him negative reinforcement day after
> day. And then you have to consider the negative reinforcement that
> was the Knicks under Isiah Thomas, one of the worst general managers
> and coaches of all time. Then you have D'Antoni basically telling
> Marbury to stay home this past preseason. So, basically what I'm
> saying is that you're a product of your environment and Marbury has
> lived in a toxic one for the last 4 years. Before coming to NY, he
> actually had a decent reputation...
>
> Further, we're getting him during the perfect storm for his
> resurgence--everybody's hating on him, saying he's going to sabotage
> the Cs just like every other team he's played on, so this is pretty
> much his only chance to build his value for a contract next season.
> If he flames out here, he's going to have to head to Europe to play
> pro ball. He's also well-rested, healthy, and being asked to play a
> small role on a championship team for the next 3 months. So,
> everything's set up for him to succeed, it's just a matter of him
> doing it. And I have no doubt that he can...troubled, highly
> talented athletes usually take moments like these to recapture their
> glory (think Terrell Owens in his initial stops in Phil. and
> Dallas)...if only to lose it again in a season or two. But that's
> the thing: we're offering Marbury a chance to rehabilitate his image
> and he's offereing us a better chance to win. All he has to do is
> behave for 3 months and he's golden, free
> to sign a bloated contract with some stupid team in the
> offseason.... It's a win/win for both sides.
>
> And if it doesn't work out? He's easily released, with Sam Cassell
> waiting in wings to replace him. This is a Red-like move, taking a
> chance on a talented head case that nobody else would touch, knowing
> that head case is motivated to prove everyone wrong and that for
> once in his life he's going to sacrifice for the betterment of the
> team.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, gene kirkpatrick <gk_tyler at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: gene kirkpatrick <gk_tyler at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Just say no
>> To: "celtics" <celtics at igtc.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 6:14 AM
>> My instinct is that Marbury is not good for any team, so why
>> would he be good for us? I understand the metrics: as a
>> true point, he would give House the chance to be a true #2,
>> as an offensive threat, he would have to be taken
>> seriously--unlike Pruitt, and he is a skilled ball-handler
>> and passer, he would be a solid distributor. Maybe. He
>> also has over-valued his own offense, never really played
>> defense, and literally wrecked teams with his attitude. I
>> will admit that Pruitt has disappointed, but I just
>> don't see the big plus that Marbury would bring. My
>> instinct is that poison players are considered that for a
>> reason. I hope we don't sign him. I understand our
>> desire to secure a team that is invincible, but no team
>> really is. I'd rather live with a weakness than add
>> another type weakness. Cheers, Gene
>>
>>
>>
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