BBIQ ( was RE: Will Powe Go?)

[keltsfan]

Or serving on the Supreme Court. He'd sure do his best to restore the
relevance of the US Constitution!  Oooops, sorry about the off-topic mention
of something other than the Celtics.  Go Redsox!  Ooops did it again. Sorry.
- Ravi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf
Of asterix
> ninetynine
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
> Subject: Re: BBIQ ( was RE: Will Powe Go?)
> 
> Darn it Ubiquitous -  You've stolen my follow-up ;)
> 
>   I thank all of you for your definitions.  In many case, you chose a Hall
of Famer and
> member of the 50 greatest players ever to illustrate what it means to have
good or great
> BBIQ ( although my friend Ravi Potter Stewart's "I know it when I see it"
made me wonder
> if he ought not be scouting).
> 
>   So what does that mean when the term gets applied to young'un like
Brandon Wallace or
> Al Jefferson?  Does it mean that they are Hall of Fame material or
candidates for Ravi's all-
> BBIQ Rotisserie team?
> 
>   I like the idea that it is a player with solid fundamentals who knows
when and how to use
> them.  It doesn't have to be a star or HOFer.  Brian Scalabrine, Adrian
Griffin, Rick Fox, Ed
> Pinckney, and Danny Ainge all fit that bill.
> 
> 
> 
> Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   Kim,
> 
> That's a great definition, thank you. My question is
> how can one objectively determine a basketball
> player's BBIQ? There are so many factors to take into
> account, including the player's health, experience,
> mental strength, the opponent on any given day,
> teammates, coaching, offensive and defensive system,
> the officiating, that seem to influence the perception
> of basketball IQ and one's ability, as you said, to
> "see the court/game as a whole and understand the game
> in the broadest sense." Case in point, Tony Allen
> looks a hell of a lot smarter when he's completely
> healthy, because the crazy shit he tries to pull off
> on the basketball court has a much better chance of
> happening when he's healthy. Likewise, Paul Pierce is
> going to look a whole hell of lot smarter on the court
> this year because he's going to be playing with a
> bunch of great veterans. There are obviously players
> that 'get it' just like there are players that don't,
> but my question would pertain to the ones in the
> middle (since that's where most reside). How much of
> BBIQ is system and situation and how much is inborn
> and unchanging? For the greats, it doesn't seem to
> matter, they can succeed in any system. But what
> about everyone else?
> 
> Ryan
> --- Kim Malo wrote:
> 
> > At 12:24 PM 10/12/2007, asterix ninetynine wrote:
> > >The lexicon of basketball intelligentsia continues
> > to amaze (and
> > >somewhat perplex) me. "Long" players with
> > tremendous "Upside"? And
> > >now we can add the term "BBIQ".
> > >
> > > What exactly is basketball I.Q. and what does it
> > describe? I
> > > presume it means that a player exhibits solid
> > fundamentals, but I
> > > would appreciate hearing how others define this
> > term.
> >
> > Not so much just having or even exhibiting
> > fundamentals. Exhibiting
> > them can just be because you're well trained and
> > mindless enough for
> > that to be remarkably effective, while BBIQ doesn't
> > just involve
> > fundamentals anyway. And you can have BBIQ but not
> > be able to execute
> > - Scal will often clearly understand the right thing
> > to do but can't
> > do it. Hell, I'm much better at understanding the
> > game than I ever
> > was as a player, where I mostly took advantage of
> > smarts,
> > ruthlessness, persistence, a solid frame... and
> > getting my growth
> > spurt several years before the boys I was playing
> > against . Of
> > course amongst the local girls I was da man...
> > (hmmm, something wrong
> > with that statement)
> >
> > The key word here is understanding - it's being able
> > to see the court
> > / game as a whole and understand the game in the
> > broadest sense,
> > along with what you're seeing now, to know what the
> > most appropriate
> > thing to do is in basketball terms, to take best
> > advantage of what
> > you see and minimize the disadvantages. Which may
> > involve exhibiting
> > the fundamentally sound thing but may also mean
> > doing something
> > outrageous but perfect, as Bird so often did. And he
> > had one of the
> > highest BBIQ in action I've ever seen. As did Russ.
> > His shot blocking
> > was fundamentally sound, his deciding to block it so
> > as to start a
> > break for his teammates vs out of bounds (where it
> > couldn't be
> > rebounded or tapped back in but if you were the last
> > one to touch it,
> > it might well lead to an easy basket anyway on the
> > inbound), when no
> > one else did it that way, was high BBIQ. Your
> > understanding of the
> > game certainly involves fundamentals, but if it
> > never moves beyond
> > having them, I don't think it's a high BBIQ any more
> > than doing well
> > on spelling tests because of a photographic memory
> > or teacher who is
> > very good at drill means being a brilliant creative
> > thinker.
> >
> > Someone mentioned Gomes. BBIQ might tell you that
> > the best thing for
> > you to do in a given situation is nothing direct,
> > simply move without
> > the ball NOW because you see 3 defenders taking the
> > first step to
> > close in on the guy with the ball, which means
> > there's going to be a
> > lot of open space somewhere and an urgent need to
> > get the ball to
> > someone else before he gets trapped. Vs. simply
> > standing and watching
> > or moving to the open space, but too late because
> > you waited for it
> > to already be there with the trap locked down and
> > couldn't think
> > beyond oh, there's an open space, maybe someone will
> > pass it to me if
> > I go there. Or, in a related situation (and this is
> > a MAJOR pet peeve
> > because it is so easy and so basic and so obvious
> > and we are SO bad
> > about it) going enough to the ball when someone is
> > trapped or about
> > to be, to give them a visible and safe outlet
> > target, even if it's
> > just for a moment before passing the ball right
> > back. And even if
> > it's not part of the original play call (following a
> > script doesn't
> > take BBIQ). It's making a bounce pass not just
> > because it's more
> > appropriate for the part of the court, who you're
> > passing to and the
> > overall situation than a chest high bullet, but
> > understanding why
> > that's true, not just doing so on instinct and
> > training. You could
> > see Jefferson starting to raise his, at least on
> > offense, last season
> > when he was making his moves more situationally
> > appropriate vs acting
> > wholly on instinct and raw talent and a prayer.
> >
> > Kim
> >
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