first game

Tue Oct 9 19:47:29 CDT 2007

So Perk is a better player than Posey?

I really hope Tony turns out to be as good as you and Hollinger believe.
I'm rooting for him; I just haven't seen it yet.  He had a great stretch
last year before he got hurt, but that, I fear, was one of those
putting-up-great-numbers-on-an-awful-team deals.

Cheers,

JPW

On 10/9/07, Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Another person with some basketball IQ, John
> Hollinger, just came out with his Player Efficiency
> Ratings and Posey came in with a sterling 10.53 PER
> (just below Kendrick Perkins who's at 10.96) while
> Tony Allen came in at 15.15, good for 4th best on the
> team, after KG, Paul and Ray, respectively.
> Hollinger's ranking system is not perfect, but Posey
> is nowhere near Tony in terms of sheer ability and
> effectiveness.  You can talk about BB IQ all day long,
> but unless it comes with numbers then usually it's
> overrated.  Posey is a great glue guy for the bench
> and an occasional stopper, but Tony is better at most
> aspects of the game.  And his BB IQ isn't that bad
> either.  If he had Posey's game experience, he'd
> probably have a greater BB IQ too.
>
> Just for those of you that are interested, after KG,
> Paul, Ray, and Tony, the highest PERs on the C's
> belong to Powe, House, and then Rondo and Perk.
> Scalabrine (another high BB IQ player) comes in dead
> last.
>
> Ryan
>
>
> --- Jeff White <jwhite128 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tony Allen may be more of a natural 2 than Posey,
> > but I think it's a huge
> > stretch to say he's "better than Posey."
> >
> > Posey has more basketball IQ in his fingers than
> > Tony has in his whole body.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/8/07, Ryan W <ubiquitous_am_i at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think Doc is already kinda trying to do what you
> > > suggest Mark, though he's doing it without
> > benching
> > > Ray Allen.  We can't read everything into the
> > first
> > > game, but Ray Allen was the first to go to the
> > bench
> > > (of KG, Paul, and Ray) and came back into the game
> > to
> > > relieve Pierce.  I think that's what we'll see all
> > > season, Ray Allen to the bench early, followed by
> > a
> > > sub of Ray Allen for Paul Pierce late in the first
> > > quarter, much like Doc used Ricky Davis (when he
> > was
> > > starting).  Down the road, though, I think he will
> > be
> > > a 6th man.  Good call on that.  But I think Tony
> > Allen
> > > starts for him when that happens.  He's more of a
> > 2
> > > guard and when healthy he's better than Posey.
> > >
> > > As for Scal in the starting unit, I just don't see
> > it.
> > > Right now, Scal is KG's personal back-up and I can
> > > live with that.  He might look better with better
> > > players around him, but what does that really say
> > > about him as a player?  I would hope all players
> > look
> > > better with better players around them, and I
> > would
> > > rather develop Perk, Powe and Big Baby and let
> > them
> > > benefit from playing with great players than give
> > that
> > > away to a scrub like Scalabrine.  Of the all the
> > crap
> > > play that we've seen from Brian in the last 2
> > years,
> > > the only thing that possibly can improve is his
> > shot.
> > > Do we want to sacrifice Big Baby's development, or
> > > Powe's or Perk's just to see of few more Scal
> > jumpers
> > > go in?  Not at all.  Not in the short term and
> > > definitely not in the long term.  If all goes
> > well,
> > > Big Baby is in Scal's current spot in about 2
> > months.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > > --- "Berry, Mark" <Mark.Berry at Fahlgren.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thought they looked pretty good. KG was great.
> > We
> > > > knew that. He spent
> > > > more time in the post than he has in recent
> > years,
> > > > which is a good
> > > > thing. Pierce was very good. The Ray Allen thing
> > > > bears watching. Can he
> > > > adjust to being the third wheel? That's what he
> > > > seems to be with this
> > > > team. He'll get open shots, but they're in a
> > > > different rhythm than he's
> > > > accustomed to seeing. The balance would feel
> > better
> > > > if he were the sixth
> > > > man, but I don't think we'll see that anytime
> > soon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rondo was pretty good, but needs to look to
> > > > penetrate more often. Perk
> > > > was solid. Eddie House was very good off the
> > bench -
> > > > he's a perfect 15
> > > > mpg gunner, but he's not a point guard. Posey
> > was
> > > > OK.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everyone is going to think I'm nuts, but I'd
> > love to
> > > > see us start the
> > > > game with KG at center, Scal at PF, Posey at SF,
> > > > Pierce at SG and Rondo
> > > > at PG. That just feels like a really balanced
> > group.
> > > > Then you bring Ray
> > > > Allen, Perk, Tony Allen and House off the bench.
> > > > That gives Ray a chance
> > > > to come in as the designated scorer and Perk a
> > > > chance to come in when
> > > > the game has loosened up and they aren't calling
> > > > every foul. It also
> > > > gives KG even more room to operate in the post.
> > It
> > > > also makes KG the
> > > > anchor of the defense. I don't know. Right now,
> > that
> > > > starting unit just
> > > > feels like it's wasting Ray Allen's talents.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
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