And now Deep Thoughts...with Jack Handy

[ryanmnelson at verizon.net]

The Knicks finished 33-49 last year.  the magic made the playoffs at 40-42.  

Therefore i think you are both right: They are likely middle of the pack this year (around .500) and that will be an improvement so they are likely being underrated.

Marc Stein has them 24th in his first power rankings which implies that the Street (i use espn as a good street proxy) has them as being just as bad as they were last year.

I agree with Egg that they will be better, and even you say a .500 team.

So they are being underrated, but they still probably are not that good.

rmn

>From: Patrick.Ryan at westover.af.mil
>Date: 2007/10/02 Tue PM 01:46:52 CDT
>To: celtics at igtc.com
>Subject: And now Deep Thoughts...with Jack Handy

>C'mon Egg. Pretty underrated and deepest bench? Really?
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>That's a decent offensive team, but there isn't a one of them that plays
>a lick of defense. Add to that being maybe the most selfish team ever
>assembled (which goes to your hoodlum point) and I hold the same thought
>about the Knicks I always do: about a .500 team, makes a huge
>(money-wise) trade at the deadline to try and make said postseason, and
>just barely miss the playoffs when all is said and done.
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>As far as the Knicks bench - I love David Lee - kills the Celtics, but
>he's really about all their bench really is other than even MORE
>overpaid, overhyped offense-first guys.  The draft class? I don't see
>anything that pops out at me as instant impact (same as our draft class
>with the Cs).
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>Just like the Celtics they have to defend to win and I see the Cs with
>Garnett and Posey (and Rondo and Perk) MUCH more positioned to do that
>then the Knicks.
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>Sorry to disagree, but they're rated just about where they deserve to be
>- middle of the pack and their bench is the same as every other team - a
>couple of unknown rooks, a couple stiffs, and a couple of okays.
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>That said, the Knicks and their $89 mill payroll are actually a pretty 
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>underrated team with a starting lineup of Randolph, Curry, Marbury, 
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>Crawford, and Richardson, and the deepest bench in the East.    If they 
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>weren't such hoodlums, the team would likely be ranked a lot higher. 
>
>Isiah recognizes talent; he just doesn't understand "character."
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>Egg
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