2nd rounders

[Ryan W]

Mark,

That's a crap trade if there ever was.  You never
trade your best player coming off an injury plagued
year.  Maybe the time will come, but let it come after
a good, injury-free season where we can recover an
equal return.  And I'll repeat it again until everyone
believes: this is a playoff team if everyone's
healthy.  If Ainge can manage to get a
Garnett/JOneal/Gasol in here for 5th pick, West, Theo,
and Green, then we're borderline championship finals
material (given the pathetic state of the Eastern
Conference).  There's no reason to freak out and
rebuild--we've been freaky rebuilding for 2 years, we
just need to wait it out and see what happens.

Ryan
--- "Berry, Mark  S" <berrym at BATTELLE.ORG> wrote:

> The Swift thing was real. Danny wanted him badly. It
> just reinforces the
> point that the Celtics haven't been great at hiding
> their draft
> intentions. Now, that has gotten better since the
> Chris Paul debacle. It
> seems he has put a lid on the leaks for the most
> part. So maybe this is
> a smokescreen. Maybe ... 
> 
> As for Pierce trades ... I just think it's time to
> admit where we are
> and rebuild. No more straddling the fence. We're far
> from one trade away
> from being anything more than mediocre, so it's time
> to go the other
> direction -- trade Pierce for a younger player who
> can play and a decent
> draft pick. Gordon and 9 from Chicago, or something
> along those lines. I
> know you're not a Gordon fan, and I'm not wild for
> him or anything, but
> he can play. Anyway, I'd think along those lines.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
> Behalf Of mark at 10thumbs.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:05 PM
> To: celtics at igtc.com
> Subject: 2nd rounders
> 
> Well we "knew" about Robert Swift -- but isn't there
> some thought that
> that was a similar situation.... that we liked
> Jefferson and getting
> someone to reach for Swift woulda helped?
> 
> I too don't have a problem, per se, about shopping
> Pierce, but i'm just
> (to use your phrase) terrified about what we might
> get for him. The
> thought of Ben Gordon and junk makes me vomit a
> little each time. (i'm
> no
> Gordon fan). A resigned Nocioni, Thomas, Duhon and
> the #9 is much
> better.
> 
> It's sacrilege, and i feel like i might get struck
> with lightening every
> time i think it, but Pierce + Szczerbiak for Lamar
> Odom, Kwame Brown's
> expiring $9M contract, and Andrew Bynum strikes me
> as a nice deal for
> us... If they held Bynum instead of getting Kidd,
> maybe they don't do it
> for Pierce.  See I can't even bring myself to say
> who the "they" are. 
> Stupid Fakers.
> 
> I know you were keen on Peja for Pierce several
> years ago Mark... and
> that
> would have been disastrous. That's what i'm afraid
> of. Do you have
> anyone
> in mind? (sorry baout the Peja dig..)
> 
> (the other) mark
> 
> 
> --------------------------
> I have no problem shopping Pierce, in fact I think
> it's the smart thing
> at this point. But I don't think the owner will
> allow them to trade him.
> 
> I'd feel better about this "Ainge is sending out
> smoke signals" theory
> if we haven't seen over the years that he has been
> pretty transparent in
> his draft plans. We knew about Marcus Banks early.
> We knew about Robert
> Swift early. These things have a way of leaking out.
> I blame Chris
> Wallace -- the guy who leaked the Pierce-to-Portland
> talks a couple of
> years ago (and scuttled our chance to get Chris
> Paul). Of course, I like
> to blame Chris Wallace whenever I can. I can't
> believe that guy is still
> drawing a paycheck from the Celtics.
> 
> Mark
> 
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