Trade

[Berry, Mark S]

No way. He's definitely on the downside and has a murderous contract.
I'm thinking their pick (No. 9), Ben Gordon, Ty Thomas and Mike Sweetney
(as filler to make the numbers work). They improve with a go-to scorer,
the Celts get 75 percent of Pierce's production from Gordon and a couple
of prospects in the pick (Al Thornton? Brewer at 5 and Noah at 9?) and
Thomas.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of Josh Ozersky
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:56 AM
To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
Subject: Re: Trade

Ben Wallace
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Berry, Mark S" <berrym at BATTELLE.ORG>
To: "The Boston Celtics Mailing List" <celtics at igtc.com>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Trade


> We can't get Durant or Oden. No one is trading them, and definitely
not
> for anything we have.
> 
> I agree with the need to trade Pierce, but set your sights elsewhere
in
> the lottery. I still think Chicago makes the most sense.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
> Behalf Of John Lyell
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:33 AM
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Trade
> 
> Time to get creative. By the time these kids really mature Pierce will
> be 2-3 years older. Try to move him now in a package for Durant, even
if
> it costs us Green too, then take Brewer at #5.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: keltsfan <keltsfan at comcast.net>
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List <celtics at igtc.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:23:12 AM
> Subject: RE: Trade
> 
> 
> Not at all Egg. 
> 
> If I actually thought that Boston could acquire a Garnett without
giving
> up
> Pierce and Jefferson, I'd be all for it because it would immediately
> make
> Boston a contender to play in the Eastern Conference finals.  I just
> don't
> think it's possible to acquire that kind of talent without giving up
> Jefferson.  If the Celtics give up Jefferson for Garnett and go into
the
> season with Pierce and Garnett as the key guys, I'm not sure they get
by
> Detroit and the other risers in the East and with the clock ticking on
> Pierce and Garnett's respective careers and their significant
salaries,
> adding a Jefferson type post scorer, which they would need to make
that
> championship run, would be near impossible. 
> 
> In short, the Celtics are screwed.  They don't have the assets to
> acquire a
> Garnett type talent without hurting themselves.  And the fifth pick
does
> not
> help them win a championship in the short term window they have to win
> one
> in. 
> 
> Seattle would easily give up Wilcox and Ridnour to get out from under
> them.
> I thought Fortson had one more year on his deal but he doesn't so yes
a
> Seattle deal like I suggested is near impossible as you pointed out. 
> 
> Ravi
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
> Behalf
> Of
>> Eggcentric at aol.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:03 AM
>> To: celtics at igtc.com
>> Subject: Re: Trade
>> 
>> > Then Ainge needs to offer the Sonics Pierce and the fifth pick for
>> > the #2 pick and some bad contracts to make the deal work.
>> >       - Ravi
>> 
>> Anything to get rid of Pierce, eh?
>> 
>> Unlike us, the Sonics don't have high buck bad contracts to make
>> the deal work.   If you're not talking Allen or Lewis to match
>> Pierce's contract, they would have to trade us 4 or 5 players,
>> some which they have no desire to trade.
>> 
>> The math just doesn't work.
>> 
>> Egg
>> 
>> 
>> 
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