Oden

[Berry, Mark S]

One more thing ... I like Simmons' stuff a lot, but he falls into this
rating of players that doesn't really reflect impact on a real
basketball team. It's why guys like Pierce, Ray Allen, Michael Redd,
etc. are consistently overrated, while guys like Rasheed Wallace, Kenyon
Martin and Marcus Camby are consistently underrated. On almost any of
Simmons' lists (or most NBA writers), the first three I listed would be
ranked higher than the second three. But I'd say that second group has
more impact in building a winning basketball team.

Guys who impact the game both with and without the ball in their hands
and on both ends of the court are hard to come by. Big men and impact
point guards.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of keltsfan
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:09 PM
To: 'The Boston Celtics Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Oden

Frederick, my concern would be whether there is enough room down low for
the
both of em and how it affects Jefferson's ability to score inside not
necessarily whether there are enough low post touches for the both of
them.
Two low post players will allow defenses to attack Jefferson differently
than the current configuration which is dependent on the Celtics
spreading
the floor with a compliment of outside players. If Jefferson can add the
consistent 15 foot face up jumper then it's not a concern, but Jefferson
is
such a low post terror, he wouldn't want to be spending too much time
facing
the basket. 

Quick passing and screens inside can alleviate some of the issues with
respect to this but this team has a tendency, one player in particular,
to
hold or control the ball much too long while trying to find a teammate
and
this would not be advantageous to a frontline consisting of two bonafied
low
post guys. 

In any event, a frontline of Jefferson and Oden would be a nice
"problem" to
have and one I hope the Celtics coaching staff will have to deal with!

Ravi

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com 
> [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Hurley
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:18 AM
> To: The Boston Celtics Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Oden
> 
> On Thu, March 1, 2007 10:57 am, keltsfan wrote:
> > If Oden is the pick, the one issue that must be addressed 
> is can Oden 
> > and Jefferson coexist on the offensive end? Will each get 
> in the other's way?
> 
> I think this is partially alleviated by Oden's need for 
> offensive development.  He likely won't be a serious scorer 
> right away, if he ever becomes one at all.  If he could be a 
> truly dominant defensive player, and could add complimentary 
> offense, then that meshes well with Al's emerging offensive 
> game.  Who knows, though?  It's all a crap-shoot.
> 
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