And if that MOCKingbird don't sing...I'm gonna buy me a Jianlian

Jaims jaims at
Thu Jun 28 12:50:30 CDT 2007

great observations, ryan.

I, too, have the same reservations for Brewer as he's in the thin side. I
like his passion for defense but he won't be a bruising defender ala Artest
for SFs and guards. Plus his offensive game is kinda a question mark still.
He might be a Deshawn Stevenson w/o the scoring skills at best.

I like Noah too but I hope he won't be a Mark Madsen in the NBA...i sure
hope not.

Lastly, spot on regarding Gerald Wallace. He's a younger Marion type we
should pursue. All around skills, a hustler and doesn't need to jack up a
lot of shots to be happy.  Lewis would be great also, imo, but a Gerald
Wallace (or even a Josh Smith) will be PERFECT as you said.


On 6/29/07 1:37 AM, "Ryan W" <ubiquitous_am_i at> wrote:

> Lots of doom and gloom from Mark B. on draft day.
> This has got to be the weirdest draft ever.  For like
> the first time ever, I don't really have a preference
> about who we take.  Everybody that has been projected
> as possibly being picked at #5 is someone I could talk
> myself into liking.  Weird.  I don't even know who to
> hope doesn't get picked ahead of us.  Man, but it's
> still going to be fun.
> With that said, here are some of my pre-draft
> feelings: 
> While I can talk myself into liking anyone we draft, I
> have a feeling that Brewer and Horford are not going
> to be as good as everyone thinks.  Brewer is just too
> skinny, doesn't shoot well enough or dribble well
> enough.  He'll be a good player--maybe--but in 3-5
> years time.  I don't want him picked....though if he's
> picked I'll convince myself that Danny knows what he's
> doing.  As for Horford, I can't really pinpoint it,
> but his game is just stiff and lacks fluidity.  I
> didn't get excited watching him play.  He has nice
> skills and good athleticism, but his body doesn't move
> in the ways I find pleasing.  Does that make sense?  I
> just don't think he's going to be a perennial All-Star
> type.  I'd like to get that out of this draft.
> Of course, I like Noah and he's probably won't be a
> perennial All-Star type either.  But I think his
> makeup is PERFECT for our current team.  Sometimes,
> just one player with that great attitude can infuse
> the rest of the team and make everyone play a little
> better than they actually are.  I think Noah is that
> kind of player.  And he fills a need.  A very
> important need, especially given Al's defensive
> deficiencies; he can be a great help-side defender,
> shotblocker, rebounder, and he can get on the break
> very very well.  And he works hard.  I think I like
> him best...
> Yi is cool because he also fits this team.  We need a
> three point shooting 7 footer to team with Al on the
> offensive end.  Unfortunately, I think he'll be slow
> to develop and still leave us with defensive issues if
> he does develop. 
> My sleeper pick is Jeff Green.  I think he's the
> player that looking back on this draft people are
> going to realize he was a supremely talented player
> playing in a very structured offense who didn't get to
> show off his game until he got to the NBA.  I'm
> talking about a Paul Pierce type career.  I think he
> can be that good.
> My super sleeper is Julian Wright.  I guess I'm just a
> sucker for those Antoine types, who can handle the
> ball, pass, rebound, and facilitate the offense.  I
> think our team needs ballhandlers and facilitators.
> I'm not really advocating Wright at 5, but if we trade
> down he'd be a great pick.  We'd need a good coach to
> get the most out of him, however....
> Other predictions: Ainge will make at least one trade
> tonight, probably for a late first round pick.  Danny
> just loves the draft and if he can get a first rounder
> cheaply, then he does it and gives us another chip.
> That's why Nick Young was brought in.  Not that I like
> Nick Young--he got HORRIBLE marks in Hollinger's
> latest article on the draft and I tend to give
> credence to Hollinger's statistical analysis.
> Last prediction: we're going to get a veteran in some
> manner...if not tonight, then after July 1st.  I like
> Lewis, but I think the real sleeper free agent is
> Gerald Wallace.  He'd be perfect on this team.
> Defense, hustle, and transition offense.  But I don't
> think Charlotte is willing to part with him and we can
> only offer MLE if we can't work out a sign-and-trade.
> Okay, enough ramblings for now.
> Ryan
> --- "Berry, Mark  S" <berrym at BATTELLE.ORG> wrote:
>> My preferences are:
>> 1. Noah
>> 2. Yi
>> 3. Brewer
>> 4. Green
>> 99. Brandan Wright
>> Noah would be a perfect fit. He's slide right in
>> alongside Al and
>> address so many problems we have in the frontcourt.
>> He'd be great.
>> With Yi, I'm trusting all these talent evaluators.
>> Who knows? But if he
>> is the kind of player they say he is, he'd be
>> another great fit
>> alongside Al. Different from Noah, but a great
>> companion to Al.
>> If it's Brewer, I'll be disappointed. I liked him a
>> lot when I thought
>> he was 6-9 with Scottie Pippen arms. As it turns
>> out, he's 6-6 with a
>> pedestrian wingspan. He'd be an upgrade at 2-guard,
>> but not a
>> difference-maker.
>> Jeff Green is my worst-case scenario. I think he'll
>> be a good player,
>> but he's a small forward. Pierce is a small forward.
>> If we're trading
>> Pierce then maybe Green makes more sense. If not,
>> Doc will just stick
>> him at PF replacing Gomes and we won't see much of a
>> difference.
>> My prediction, however, is that we trade 5 and Al
>> for Garnett. I think
>> McHale is going through some motions with these
>> other talks and
>> ultimately will go back to KG and say "I tried."
>> He'll convince KG to
>> sign off on going to Boston and we'll make a trade
>> that we'll regret for
>> the next 10 years.
>> Mark
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: celtics-bounces at
>> [mailto:celtics-bounces at] On
>> Behalf Of Ryan, Patrick S Maj RES USAFR 439 MSG
>> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:41 AM
>> To: celtics at
>> Subject: And if that MOCKingbird don't sing...I'm
>> gonna buy me a
>> Jianlian
>> My prediction of the C's pick - in order of
>> precedence (by whether or
>> not
>> they're still available):
>> 1. Yi Jianlian (too many chinese dollar signs
>> dancing in our owners'
>> heads)
>> 2. Joakim Noah
>> 3. Corey Brewer
>> 4. Jeff Green
>> If Horford is still there (which I highly doubt) I
>> could see him taken,
>> but
>> that's so unlikely I'll stick with Jianlian.  I'm a
>> Blidiot (tm
>> EggIndustries) when it comes to predictions, but
>> here's my mock through
>> the
>> top five:
>> 1. Oden
>> 2. Durant
>> 3. Horford
>> 4. Noah
>> 5. Jianlian
>> -------------------------------
>> Assuming we end up keeping the #5 pick (only if we
>> are unable to put
>> together a trade), nothing has changed my view from
>> several months
>> ago...
>> Jianlian.
>> Egg
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