Revisionist History

[ryan nelson]

It was the next year when the Celtics got swept by the Nets that Martin
really dominated Antoine.  He outscored him 82 to 56 in the series
(20.5ppg to 14ppg), which I think was probably worse than it looks. I
remember Martin scoring at will on Antoine down low early in the games
and setting the tone for the series that way (I could be wrong about
that, just my memory, but Martin definitely worked 'Toine on 2003 as the
numbers show.  In 2002, I can't recall and the numbers seem to say
otherwise as pointed out by ehmunro)

What made the 2003 match-up seem worse is that 'Toine averaged 20 per
game in the regular season and Martin 17, so one picked up his game and
the other struggled in that series.

I just remember that in that 2003 playoff series Toine seemed to have no
lift and it was the first time I thought he might be done or on the
downside, even though he was only 26.  he has not aged well.  

rmn 

-----Original Message-----
From: celtics-bounces at igtc.com [mailto:celtics-bounces at igtc.com] On
Behalf Of E.H. Munro
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:14 PM
To: celtics at igtc.com
Subject: Re: Revisionist History

Those who are ignorant of history should have the humility to  
doublecheck the facts before calling the rest of us idiots.

On May 31, 2007, at 7:32 PM, PScottman999 wrote:

> "Does anyone actually remember that year or just remember the simple
> statement "they were in the ECF that year"...?? It took a  
> superhuman, referees
> bailing him out of every ill-advised drive through five people  
> effort from Paul
> Pierce for that series to even be close (otherwise it would have  
> been a 4-1
> drubbing)."

In other words, you didn't even watch the games. Are you going to  
seriously tell us that "the referees saved Paul" but that all the  
Nets free throws (and they shot more than Boston) were "earned"? This  
would confirm my long-held belief that the loudmouths that post  
drivel like this spent the 2002 ECF cheering for the Nets. I guess  
this is the real tragedy of the Thanks Dad years, he turned Celtics  
fans into losers. Wyc has multiplied the problem by a thousand. Let  
me guess, you were pissed off that the 2002 Celtics didn't tank the  
season for a shot at Yao?


> "Kenyon Martin was DESTROYING Antoine Walker on both ends of the  
> floor.  Total
> and complete domination that would continue until both went to  
> different
> teams."

Oh yeah, Kenyon Martin was "TEH DOMINATERZ" I mean, he simply  
overpowered Walker, averaging 14.3 p/g and 5.1 r/g on an aFG% of .359  
and .849 PP/FGA. I mean that's Olajuwonesque dominance right there,  
that is. Walker, meanwhile, averaged a paltry 22.5/9.8 on an aFG% . 
439 and .943 PP/FGA. Truly, Martin dominated him to a degree never  
seen in NBA history.


> "Kenny Anderson was also being absolutely destroyed by Jason Kidd  
> -  near
> triple double every night. Delk had one good defensive game against  
> him if  I
> remember correctly - the rest of the time Kidd did whatever he   
> wanted."

This is the only correct statement in your revisionist history.

> "That series taught the entire league how to defend the Celtics.  
> From that
> point on they stayed back, let Walker bomb from long range (or put  
> a physical
> big on him on the few instances he went down low), baited Pierce to  
> drive
> bringing over the weakside guard for the inevitable strip, and let  
> everyone  else
> shoot whenever they wanted. They also knew at crunch time pushing  
> the  ball up
> didn't allow Harter's blitz to effectively work causing confusion   
> by Blount,
> Battie, et al to lose their man for dunk after dunk after dunk;  
> and  if they
> were set up to defend, they'd high screen and roll, quickly reverse  
> the  ball
> to the weak side, and hit the cutting big for again, the dunk (all  
> while we
> were chucking up 3 after 3 after 3 - when we hit a good percentage  
> - we won,
> because 3 is duh, more then 2, but if we didn't hit a high  
> percentage of threes
>  a dunk percentage ALWAYS beats missed 3s percentage)."

Really? You're seriously claiming that the entire NBA scored at will  
on the 7th best defensive squad in the league? Boy, the other 22  
teams must have *really* sucked defensively, eh? And the slight drop- 
off in offensive efficiency had zero to do with their replacement of  
Kenny Anderson with J.R. fucking Bremer? Nothing to do with their  
replacement of Rodney Rogers with Ginny Baker, who spent most of the  
year in rehab? I mean, really? Revisionist history indeed. And a  
pathetic one, at that.

E.H. Munro

"I have never been comfortable with people comparing politicians to  
whores. After all, whores are hard working, rarely think that they're  
better than you, never call the cops on you, and never force you to  
hire their cousin Bernie. All in all I think the world might be a  
better place if politicians were more like whores."


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