What would you have done differently?
asterix ninetynine
asterix_9_9 at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 3 06:45:34 CDT 2007
I would be looking to add another big guy to backup at center.
Brendan Haywood of the Wiz for Scalabrine and Telfair works for me. Wizards coach Eddie Jordan needs bench players and he loves Scalabrine form their days in NJ.
Sean Giovanello <giovanello at gmail.com> wrote:
I think if we could get him for 7.5 million a year on a five year deal that
the contract would be tradeable if it didnt work out. He would still be
young enough and talented enough to make someone bite. We have seen a lot
of guys overpaid for the midlevel or midlevel plus move around via trade.
The Celtics have done a good job working with big men in recent years
(specifically with Al and Perk) and it I think it would be interesting to
see how it played out with Darko.
I have always thought the Celtics should be trying to play moneyball as best
they can in the NBA. They are financial have nots in the league because
they wont pay the tax and they arent the most desirable destination given
their lack of success over the last twenty years.
I think Ainge has done a good job of grabbing second rounders who can play
and provide great value per dollars spent on them. He has even turned some
of his mistakes into value - Jiri Welsch says hello. I think the team could
really benefit from having a "new age" assistant GM to work with Ainge at
finding guys that you could give a modest outlay and have a good chance of
them outperforming their contracts. Someone mentioned Chuck Hayes and he
would be a low rent version of this. However, when I look around the league
I would rather have Darko than a Kapono or Walton and a Rashard Lewis is
going to get 10 million to a max per annum. Darko - to me - seems to have
the right combination of youth, size, skill, and price to take a gamble on.
At worst he and Perk combine to be a 11-12 million monster at the PF-C
slot. Think of it as giving him modern day Blount money with a ceiling to
be much higher.
Out of all the fantastical moves that are being talked about, I would be
fine with adding Darko and lower priced tough big guy - Reggie Evans or
Chuck Hayes to give us some more oomph up front.
I dont know what it would cost in a trade, but historically teams dont get a
whole lot back in these sign and trades. Maybe a pick, Scal, and Gomes?
On 7/2/07, mark at 10thumbs.org wrote:
>
> sean, interessting... we'd only be able to if we can get ORL to do the
> kind of sign-and-trade that was suggested for Rashard Lewis. which they
> might be into if we were paying him more than they have him slotted for
> (which i think is in the $7-9Mil range).
>
> Personally i think Darko lacks the drive... seen him ORL a few times and
> he just seems to not have much grit... not at Mark Blount levels, but not
> high enough for me to want us to mortgage our future on him.
>
> (the other) mark
>
>
> ---------------
> I would be pursuing Darko as a FA. We wouldnt like land him, but the idea
> of him maturing with Al, Perk, and Rondo is an enticing one. He showed
> enough last year that I think he will be a starter in the league.
>
> On 7/2/07, mark at 10thumbs.org wrote:
> >
> > I'm wondering why Danny wasn't camped out on anyone's door at midnight
> > Saturday night - I fear that Egg has it exactly right when she blames
> the
> > owners' parsimoniousness. Damn this luxury tax. I don't begrudge the
> > players or owners their fair share of a popular product, but I sure do
> > miss the days when trades were made solely for basketball-related
> reasons.
> >
> > Michael Gooen
> > ----------------
> >
> > Michael -- i think you posed a valid question to Gary so i'll pose a
> > similar one to you:
> >
> > armed with only the MLE -- or poss. a $8-9M salary slot IF (and this is
> a
> > big if) we can package Scal, Telfair and a future pick --- who would you
> > have liked to see Ainge on their front door step?
> >
> > I haven't looked too much at the FA list -- but a guy i was pushing hard
> > for 2 years ago at the $1M exception -- Mikki Moore -- is looking to get
> > the MLE and I'm guessing some team overpays.
> >
> > One guy i wouldn't mind adding back -- though he too is saying he wants
> > the MLE -- is Chris Mihm (didn't we give him a nickname back when he was
> > in green?)
> >
> > Also, be aware that an MLE signing this year might make it harder to
> match
> > an offer that Tony Allen gets next summer... not that that's the reason
> > not to spend the MLE, but i'd almost rather add a BIg and PG via trade
> > (Lue + Sheldon Williams for Scal/Telfair/next year's #1 is my current
> > desire) and wait to see if T-Al returns to his former self(s).
> >
> > (the othr) mark
>
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