What would you have done differently?

[Cecil Wright]

Yeah...before they get in another scrap!!  Sorry John...we must only be 
interested in Haywood.  Everyone knows a 6'10 guy can't possibly play Center 
in this league.

Cecil (how tall was Russ)


>From: John Lyell <jlyell at verizon.net>

>
>Brendan Haywood or Etan Thomas would be a great addition on the inside, and 
>one will likely be moved.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: "mark at 10thumbs.org" <mark at 10thumbs.org>
>To: celtics at igtc.com
>Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 2:51:39 PM
>Subject: What would you have done differently?
>
>
>a few thoughts here Sean...
>
>1. I don't think ORL let's Darko go for less than $9-10M (which IIRC would
>still let them add a Rashard Lewis or Gerald Wallace).
>
>2. Lets say they would do a S&T for Darko at $8M -- that would push us
>over the lux tax the next 2 years (after this) assuming a max extension to
>Big Al; we'd also lose Gomes and Allen b/c we'd be unable to resign them
>(b/c of the lux tax).
>
>3. RE: sign and trades --- as i've written before, it's all up to the team
>holding a players rights and what they want/how helpful tehy want to be.
>For example, ORL might prefer Ratliff's contract from us (than Scal,
>Telfair & Gomes) because it would give them the chance to add a big free
>agent again next summer...
>
>They might want (just as a total hypothetical) Boris Diaw from PHO b/c
>they don't anyone else PHO might want.
>
>They might simply refuse to do a sign and trade if Darko wanted to sign w/
>Miami b/c they don't want him to go there so he'd have to settle for less
>money. It all depends on the FA's destination.
>
>It generally breaks down this way:  if Team A (ORL) is going to let a
>player walk (Darko) they may do a sign-and-trade if (a) they don't mind
>him going to that team, and (b) the other team has pieces they want and
>that other team is willing to part with.  Those may simply be salaries
>that better fit with TEAM A's salary cap projections...
>
>Theorhetically, we could sign-and-trade Ratliff for Gerald Wallace, but
>Charlotte wouldn't do that b/c they don't need the cap room... and
>refusing to do so makes it harder for Wallace to leave.  Which is what DET
>did when Ben Wallace left for CHI. Whereas when they saw Grant Hill was
>leaving they opted to get Chucky Atkins and a young kid named Ben Wallace,
>rather than letting Hill leave for nothing.
>
>Likewise ORL could see if PHO will deal them, say, Kurt Thomas rather than
>making Grant Hill sign for the MLE in PHO (which PHO won't b/c they need
>Thomas' contract to expire to avoid the lux tax).
>
>whew... sorry i dind't mean to go on so long.
>
>(the other) mark
>
>
>
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>I think if we could get him for 7.5 million a year on a five year deal that
>the contract would be tradeable if it didnt work out.  He would still be
>young enough and talented enough to make someone bite.  We have seen a lot
>of guys overpaid for the midlevel or midlevel plus move around via trade.
>
>The Celtics have done a good job working with big men in recent years
>(specifically with Al and Perk) and it I think it would be interesting to
>see how it played out with Darko.
>
>I have always thought the Celtics should be trying to play moneyball as 
>best
>they can in the NBA.  They are financial have nots in the league because
>they wont pay the tax and they arent the most desirable destination given
>their lack of success over the last twenty years.
>
>I think Ainge has done a good job of grabbing second rounders who can play
>and provide great value per dollars spent on them.  He has even turned some
>of his mistakes into value - Jiri Welsch says hello.  I think the team 
>could
>really benefit from having a "new age" assistant GM to work with Ainge at
>finding guys that you could give a modest outlay and have a good chance of
>them outperforming their contracts.  Someone mentioned Chuck Hayes and he
>would be a low rent version of this.  However, when I look around the 
>league
>I would rather have Darko than a Kapono or Walton and a Rashard Lewis is
>going to get 10 million to a max per annum.  Darko - to me - seems to have
>the right combination of youth, size, skill, and price to take a gamble on.
>At worst he and Perk combine to be a 11-12 million monster at the PF-C
>slot.  Think of it as giving him modern day Blount money with a ceiling to
>be much higher.
>
>Out of all the fantastical moves that are being talked about, I would be
>fine with adding Darko and lower priced tough big guy - Reggie Evans or
>Chuck Hayes to give us some more oomph up front.
>
>I dont know what it would cost in a trade, but historically teams dont get 
>a
>whole lot back in these sign and trades.  Maybe a pick, Scal, and Gomes?
>
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